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Incorporate last call feedback from 2017.
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Hi Matthew,
On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 1:53 PM Matthew Wild <mwild1(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 8 February 2017 at 23:47, Christian Schudt <christian.schudt(a)gmx.de> wrote:
> >
> >> 1. Is this specification needed to fill gaps in the XMPP protocol stack or to clarify an existing protocol?
> >
> > Partly.
> > XEP-0079: Advanced Message Processing already solves the same problem.
> >
> > drop forward => no-copy
> > drop stored => no-store
> >
>
> Maybe the document should go into more detail regarding differences
> with AMP. Some notes:
>
> - You can implement both specifications if desired
> - Over 10 years after publication, XEP-0079 is not widely
> implemented, I believe this is largely due to its complexity
> - XEP-0079 requires multiple discovery steps before you can actually
> send a message
> - XEP-0079 is relatively difficult to re-use in other XEPs
> - Lots of edge cases, e.g. interaction with MUC rooms. With hints the
> server is still free to choose the most sensible option given the info
> it has.
Council has Issued another Last Call on 0334¹ and I've been going over
the feedback from the last Last Call.
The Editor will start the Last Call next Monday.
I think it received mostly positive feedback back then and I have no
reason to believe it won’t pass Last Call this time.
However I think you were right that the document should go into more
detail regarding differences with AMP.
Furthermore a little down the thread Dave had feedback wrt hints in
Error messages:
"I noted that messages of type error are explicitly called out in §4.4,
however I think there needs to be a general rule that hints SHOULD be
ignored in messages of type='error'. Possibly MUST. Errors are
sometimes generated by bouncing the entire stanza, including original
contents, back to the sender, and these original contents might
include a hint; it seems sensible to always ignore these."
that also sounds like a sensible addition to me.
Maybe you have the time to make those changes before Last Call even
starts (next Monday)
Thank You
cheers
Daniel
¹: On February 8th 2023
Good morning Council Members,
the next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on, Tuesday, March 19
2024 at 16:00 UTC in xmpp:council@muc.xmpp.org?join
The Agenda is as follows:
1) Roll call
2) Agenda Bashing
3) Editors update
* LAST CALL: XEP-0388 (Extensible SASL Profile)
* LAST CALL: XEP-0386 (Bind 2)
4) Items for voting
a) Issue Last Call on XEP-0333: Displayed Markers (was: Chat Markers)
https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0333.html
5) Pending votes
* Dan on Proposed XMPP Extension: Message Displayed Synchronization
See the spreadsheet of Doom:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1H310M8z6Kdo6XyNf2DwafzrSLuwhaLNvzfa…
6) Date of Next
7) AOB
8) Close
Hey list,
I am attaching the update on the issues discussed in the thread.
kind regards,
Abdurrahman
Jonas Schäfer <jonas(a)wielicki.name>, 15 Kas 2023 Çar, 19:25 tarihinde şunu
yazdı:
> Hi list, hi Abdurrahman,
>
> On Montag, 30. Oktober 2023 17:15:52 CET kevin.smith(a)isode.com wrote:
> > The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a new XEP.
> >
> > Title: Communicate & Ask to AI
> > Abstract:
> > This document defines a protocol for asking questions to an artificial
> > intelligence or requesting it to make predictions.
> >
> > URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xep-ai.html
>
> Thank you for your submission, Abdurrahman.
>
> We discussed this in the Council and I want to share a few suggestions for
> improvement with you.
>
> The mandatory <ai> element, as Nicolas already pointed out, seems like an
> odd
> requirement: there are already LLM-based entities out there which would
> immediately be non-compliant. In adddition, the model selection is
> underspecified: How would I know which models are even available at that
> particular agent?
>
> I think it would be better to:
> - Specify a new XEP-0030 identity based on the already existing
> bot-identity
> which identifies an account as a bot.
>
> This builds on already existing mechanisms, which is always good.
>
> - Define a XEP-0030 feature or XEP-0128 service discovery extension which
> describes the model used by the "AI" account
>
> This allows clients/users to discover information about the specific
> type
> of model used, which is useful.
>
> - Then use separate accounts for different models.
>
> This is probably debatable; if there is a compelling usecase for
> hosting
> multiple models on the same account, the model selection could be made
> part of
> the XEP-0004 form you already suggest in the document. The available
> models
> could be made part of a XEP-0128 extension, so that clients can basically
> just
> copy the form over and select a model.
>
> Other than that, I think this is an acceptable submission. The idea of
> passing
> along parameters using an embedded form to the model is novel and a good
> one
> in my opinion.
>
> kind regards,
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