[jadmin] Advertising xmpp
Sander Devrieze
s.devrieze at pandora.be
Sun Jan 6 04:38:06 CST 2008
2008/1/6, Luke -Jr <luke at dashjr.org>:
> On Saturday 05 January 2008, Sander Devrieze wrote:
> > /me pokes once more the XSF regarding standardize the use of one of
> > these: Jabber/XMPP/Talk/something else
>
> I don't think this is a good idea. Better to break the barrier that people are
> assuming of different services being incompatible. I stick to "standards
> compliant" and give examples like Jabber, Google Talk, Gizmo, etc.
> Instead of e-mail address, should we be saying AOL vs SMTP address?
We call it "email address" and not "Dashjr address", for instance,
right? People know what you mean with "This is my email address.",
"This is an email client", and "This is an email service".
Current problem: Pidgin, Adium and maybe some others call it "XMPP";
Google and Live Journal call it "Talk", differet Jabber clients call
it either Jabber, Jabber ID, JID or something else. Clients like
Pidgin and Adium even find it necessary to add fake entries for Google
Talk and Live Journal because WE HAVE A BRANDING PROBLEM (sorry for
yelling). End users get confused by the use of all these different
names that mean the same...how are we going to fix this? By doing
nothing? IMO the wait and see strategy is not what we need.
Process:
1) XSF tells it has to be called <fill in something> (+ optionally a logo)
2) Pidgin, Adium, Psi, Gajim, Google Talk, Coccinella, Live Journal,
Apple, ejabberd, Tigase, Tkabber, Kopete, jabber.org, and so forth can
adopt this name (and the logo if there is one)
3) All non-geek end users can easily see all these software and
services are *compatible* in no time
4) In the long run end users will start to associate this name with
what we offer and they will find it obvious that all IM services and
IM software are compatible.
5) If there are still closed IM networks like AIM/MS/etc, non-geek end
users will start to bother the support staff of these services with
questions like "How can I connect with Psi to your service?".
> > ** maybe for some people too general
>
> "IM address" works, but I do think there should be something more generic.
> After all, SMTP may one day be replaced with XMPP, and when I get around to
> it, I will probably be porting some games to use XMPP for server browsing and
> chat.
What about the "Contact ID/address" suggestion?
--
Mvg, Sander Devrieze.
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