From jack at collecta.com Tue Jan 5 12:01:53 2010 From: jack at collecta.com (Jack Moffitt) Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:01:53 -0700 Subject: [Members] board meeting minutes for 2009-12-23 Message-ID: <9b58f4551001051001o2124bb81ud2d327c4f27ee115@mail.gmail.com> # Minutes for XSF Board Meeting on December 23, 2009 ## Present * Jack Moffitt (Board) * Peter Saint-Andre * Will Sheward (Board) * Nicolas V?rit? (Board) ## Minutes ### Wikipedia Article Deletions The board discussed the recent Wikipedia article deletions for XMPP-related content. Peter has been moving the content from Wikipedia over to the XSF wiki. He would appreciate some assistance if anyone would like to help move the relevant pages to the XSF wiki. ### 8th XMPP Summit Next, the board discussed the upcoming 8th XMPP Summit in Brussels. The dates were approved and published on the blog. Florian is still investigating hotel choices for the XMPP Summit portion of the time. ### Annual Meeting The next meeting of the Board will be the official Annual Meeting, and the board will try and fill the various positions including Chairman, Secretary, and Treasurer. It was suggested that we need to find a new treasurer and that the new treasurer need local access to a Wells Fargo branch. Jack suggested that we switch to an open source accounting package to make it easy to hand this job around and will bring some suggestions to the next meeting. ### Next Meeting The next meeting of the Board will be January 6th, 2010, and it will constitute the Annual Meeting. ## Chat Log The chat log was already e-mailed to the members list by Peter. From gnauck at ag-software.de Tue Jan 5 15:55:47 2010 From: gnauck at ag-software.de (Alexander Gnauck) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 22:55:47 +0100 Subject: [Members] board meeting minutes for 2009-12-23 In-Reply-To: <9b58f4551001051001o2124bb81ud2d327c4f27ee115@mail.gmail.com> References: <9b58f4551001051001o2124bb81ud2d327c4f27ee115@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B43B563.8050709@ag-software.de> Am 05.01.2010 19:01, Jack Moffitt wrote: > The next meeting of the Board will be the official Annual Meeting, and > the board will try and fill the various positions including Chairman, > Secretary, and Treasurer. It was suggested that we need to find a new > treasurer and that the new treasurer need local access to a Wells > Fargo branch. Jack suggested that we switch to an open source > accounting package to make it easy to hand this job around and will > bring some suggestions to the next meeting. I volunteer for the Secretary duties again. Sorry, but I was busy the last weeks with holidays, renovations and software releases. I will open the Q1/2010 application period ASAP. Alex From stpeter at stpeter.im Tue Jan 5 16:06:23 2010 From: stpeter at stpeter.im (Peter Saint-Andre) Date: Tue, 05 Jan 2010 15:06:23 -0700 Subject: [Members] board meeting minutes for 2009-12-23 In-Reply-To: <4B43B563.8050709@ag-software.de> References: <9b58f4551001051001o2124bb81ud2d327c4f27ee115@mail.gmail.com> <4B43B563.8050709@ag-software.de> Message-ID: <4B43B7DF.1070703@stpeter.im> On 1/5/10 2:55 PM, Alexander Gnauck wrote: > Am 05.01.2010 19:01, Jack Moffitt wrote: >> The next meeting of the Board will be the official Annual Meeting, and >> the board will try and fill the various positions including Chairman, >> Secretary, and Treasurer. It was suggested that we need to find a new >> treasurer and that the new treasurer need local access to a Wells >> Fargo branch. Jack suggested that we switch to an open source >> accounting package to make it easy to hand this job around and will >> bring some suggestions to the next meeting. > > I volunteer for the Secretary duties again. Sorry, but I was busy the > last weeks with holidays, renovations and software releases. I will open > the Q1/2010 application period ASAP. Thank you on both counts, Alex. And Happy New Year! :) Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 6820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From admin at flosoft.biz Wed Jan 6 13:10:07 2010 From: admin at flosoft.biz (Florian Jensen) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 19:10:07 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas Message-ID: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Hey guys, with FOSDEM coming up in exactly a month, we wanted to ask you all for your input. Last year, we had official XMPP shirts which were a big hit at FOSDEM. So we'd like to do the same this year, but we're looking for a slogan to print on them. Last year we had: I think, therefore IM. What should it be this year? Any other feedback on the shirts if of course welcome :) Greets, Florian From bear42 at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 13:12:31 2010 From: bear42 at gmail.com (bear) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:12:31 -0500 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: what was that one said in the MUC the other day... "..., IM connected" - I liked that one (but I guess not enough to remember it!) On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 14:10, Florian Jensen wrote: > Hey guys, > > with FOSDEM coming up in exactly a month, we wanted to ask you all for your input. > > Last year, we had official XMPP shirts which were a big hit at FOSDEM. So we'd like to do the same this year, but we're looking for a slogan to print on them. > > Last year we had: I think, therefore IM. > > What should it be this year? > > Any other feedback on the shirts if of course welcome :) > > Greets, > > Florian -- Bear bear42 at gmail.com (xmpp, email) bear at code-bear.com (xmpp, email) http://code-bear.com/bearlog (weblog) PGP Fingerprint = 9996 719F 973D B11B E111 D770 9331 E822 40B3 CD29 From dave at cridland.net Wed Jan 6 13:20:56 2010 From: dave at cridland.net (Dave Cridland) Date: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 19:20:56 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> On Wed Jan 6 19:12:31 2010, bear wrote: > what was that one said in the MUC the other day... > > "..., IM connected" - I liked that one (but I guess not enough to > remember it!) > > "Don't mess with me, I'm connected" is what I suggested. I'd also like the date, and to advertise the fact the t-shirts are for "XMPP Summit 8", to increase awareness of the community behind XMPP. Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:dave at cridland.net - xmpp:dwd at dave.cridland.net - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade From joe.maissel at credit-suisse.com Wed Jan 6 13:24:07 2010 From: joe.maissel at credit-suisse.com (Maissel, Joe) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 14:24:07 -0500 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> Message-ID: <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> "got muc?" Don't know if that plays internationally. -----Original Message----- From: members-bounces at xmpp.org [mailto:members-bounces at xmpp.org] On Behalf Of Dave Cridland Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 2:21 PM To: XSF Members Subject: Re: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas On Wed Jan 6 19:12:31 2010, bear wrote: > what was that one said in the MUC the other day... > > "..., IM connected" - I liked that one (but I guess not enough to > remember it!) > > "Don't mess with me, I'm connected" is what I suggested. I'd also like the date, and to advertise the fact the t-shirts are for "XMPP Summit 8", to increase awareness of the community behind XMPP. Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:dave at cridland.net - xmpp:dwd at dave.cridland.net - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade =============================================================================== Please access the attached hyperlink for an important electronic communications disclaimer: http://www.credit-suisse.com/legal/en/disclaimer_email_ib.html =============================================================================== From alex at bluendo.com Wed Jan 6 13:52:33 2010 From: alex at bluendo.com (Alessandro Malgaroli) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 20:52:33 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> Message-ID: <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> "XMPP does IM better?" (don't know if we may incur in some trademark headaches from mrs. ciccone...) ALX -- ------------- Taxation is just a sophisticated way of demanding money with menaces [Terry Pratchett, Night Watch] From nathanfritz at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 18:12:18 2010 From: nathanfritz at gmail.com (Nathan Fritz) Date: Wed, 6 Jan 2010 16:12:18 -0800 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> "Rock out with your roster out." <--- really obscure "XMPP is to IM as HTTPS is to Web" "XMPP: Easier than Simple" <--- my favorite "XMPP: Quit Bitching about XML" "XMPP: /stream>" From mwild1 at gmail.com Wed Jan 6 19:13:07 2010 From: mwild1 at gmail.com (Matthew Wild) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 01:13:07 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> 2010/1/7 Nathan Fritz : > "Rock out with your roster out." ?<--- really obscure ...agreed. > "XMPP is to IM as HTTPS is to Web" +0.5 > "XMPP: Easier than Simple" <--- my favorite +0.6 > "XMPP: Quit Bitching about XML" Too negative. > "XMPP: /stream>" You wear this one, I'll wear and we'll see if anyone spots your mistake. IMpossible! Matthew From koski.tuomas at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 03:21:54 2010 From: koski.tuomas at gmail.com (Tuomas Koski) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:21:54 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1d142be31001070121s74f07a15l5343a567d48c6a46@mail.gmail.com> 2010/1/7 Matthew Wild : > IMpossible! nope, XMPPossible. br, -- tuomas From nicolas.verite at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 03:55:32 2010 From: nicolas.verite at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_V=E9rit=E9?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:55:32 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <1d142be31001070121s74f07a15l5343a567d48c6a46@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> <1d142be31001070121s74f07a15l5343a567d48c6a46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e2f977f1001070155o345e8070y2c3f61706c27beb2@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 10:21, Tuomas Koski wrote: > 2010/1/7 Matthew Wild : >> IMpossible! > > nope, XMPPossible. > > br, What about something like that? "XMPP = HTTP 2.0" -- Nicolas V?rit? (N?co) mailto:nicolas.verite at gmail.com Jabber ID : xmpp:nyco at jabber.fr http://linuxfr.org/ - http://fr.wikipedia.org/ - http://www.jabberfr.org/ http://xmpp.org - http://april.org/ - http://qsos.org/ From kevin at kismith.co.uk Thu Jan 7 04:03:24 2010 From: kevin at kismith.co.uk (Kevin Smith) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:03:24 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 7:10 PM, Florian Jensen wrote: > Last year we had: I think, therefore IM. Which I'm sad I didn't get one of - I liked that one. > What should it be this year? Two possibilities, neither of which I'm particularly sold on. IM Connected. Because IM's worth it. /K From zooldk at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 04:06:35 2010 From: zooldk at gmail.com (Steffen Larsen) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:06:35 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <1d142be31001070121s74f07a15l5343a567d48c6a46@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> <1d142be31001070121s74f07a15l5343a567d48c6a46@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6A1CCCF3-E0F7-4747-B456-56A0C8A9FACB@gmail.com> Hey all!, Even though I can't be at the conference this year (because of ski vacation), I have some ideas.. How about: * XMPP - Real-Time - All Time * Got BOSH? * Web 3.0 compliant? * XMPP - stay connected -Cheers! /Steffen On Jan 7, 2010, at 10:21 AM, Tuomas Koski wrote: > 2010/1/7 Matthew Wild : >> IMpossible! > > nope, XMPPossible. > > br, > -- > tuomas -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 1923 bytes Desc: not available URL: From remko at el-tramo.be Thu Jan 7 04:25:20 2010 From: remko at el-tramo.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Remko_Tron=C3=A7on?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:25:20 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <133fd4c61001070225h5284863dvfd62e3cf2b383b35@mail.gmail.com> > IM Connected. > Because IM's worth it. Haha, I especially like the last one. Let's not do more of those "Got X" ones, I think people got tired of those a few years ago. cheers, Remko From admin at flosoft.biz Thu Jan 7 05:51:43 2010 From: admin at flosoft.biz (Florian Jensen) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:51:43 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <82D20F76-472B-4AC2-AC35-1DB097A4B816@flosoft.biz> Right, so what we have so far for the slogan: Don't mess with me, I'm connected got muc? XMPP does IM better? Rock out with your roster out. XMPP is to IM as HTTPS is to Web XMPP: Easier than Simple XMPP: Quit Bitching about XML XMPP: /stream> With an optional: IMpossible! XMPPossible XMPP = HTTP 2.0 IM Connected. Because IM's worth it. XMPP - Real-Time - All Time Got BOSH? Web 3.0 compliant? XMPP - stay connected We could have on the sleeve a small: XMPP Summit 2010, that way it's dated :) --Florian From diana-liste at null.ro Thu Jan 7 06:08:37 2010 From: diana-liste at null.ro (Diana Cionoiu) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 14:08:37 +0200 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <82D20F76-472B-4AC2-AC35-1DB097A4B816@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <82D20F76-472B-4AC2-AC35-1DB097A4B816@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <4B45CEC5.2080502@null.ro> Hello Florian, I like "XMPP - stay connected" with some other words written on the T-shirt like: "XMPP - messages, presence, voice, file transfer, video" Diana Florian Jensen wrote: > Right, so what we have so far for the slogan: > > Don't mess with me, I'm connected > got muc? > XMPP does IM better? > Rock out with your roster out. > XMPP is to IM as HTTPS is to Web > XMPP: Easier than Simple > XMPP: Quit Bitching about XML > XMPP: /stream> > With an optional: > IMpossible! > XMPPossible > XMPP = HTTP 2.0 > IM Connected. > Because IM's worth it. > XMPP - Real-Time - All Time > Got BOSH? > Web 3.0 compliant? > XMPP - stay connected > > > We could have on the sleeve a small: XMPP Summit 2010, that way it's dated :) > > --Florian From nicolas.verite at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 06:40:24 2010 From: nicolas.verite at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_V=E9rit=E9?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 13:40:24 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4B45CEC5.2080502@null.ro> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <82D20F76-472B-4AC2-AC35-1DB097A4B816@flosoft.biz> <4B45CEC5.2080502@null.ro> Message-ID: <6e2f977f1001070440j28f149dfu488a08c2c0086539@mail.gmail.com> What about: "IM in"? On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 13:08, Diana Cionoiu wrote: > Hello Florian, > > I like "XMPP - stay connected" with some other words written on the T-shirt > like: > "XMPP - messages, presence, voice, file transfer, video" > > Diana > > Florian Jensen wrote: >> >> Right, so what we have so far for the slogan: >> >> Don't mess with me, I'm connected >> got muc? >> XMPP does IM better? >> Rock out with your roster out. >> XMPP is to IM as HTTPS is to Web >> XMPP: Easier than Simple >> XMPP: Quit Bitching about XML >> XMPP: /stream> >> With an optional: > xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-streams'/> >> IMpossible! >> XMPPossible >> XMPP = HTTP 2.0 >> IM Connected. >> Because IM's worth it. >> XMPP - Real-Time - All Time >> Got BOSH? >> Web 3.0 compliant? >> XMPP - stay connected >> >> >> We could have on the sleeve a small: XMPP Summit 2010, that way it's dated >> :) >> >> --Florian > > -- Nicolas V?rit? (N?co) mailto:nicolas.verite at gmail.com Jabber ID : xmpp:nyco at jabber.fr http://linuxfr.org/ - http://fr.wikipedia.org/ - http://www.jabberfr.org/ http://xmpp.org - http://april.org/ - http://qsos.org/ From safasofuoglu at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 06:41:39 2010 From: safasofuoglu at gmail.com (Safa) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 14:41:39 +0200 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8f384a461001070441g7b919332w9e024dc862e7f685@mail.gmail.com> Hi everyone, 2010/1/7 Matthew Wild > 2010/1/7 Nathan Fritz : > > > "XMPP: /stream>" > > You wear this one, I'll wear > > xmlns='urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-streams'/> > > and we'll see if anyone spots your mistake. > > IMpossible! > > Matthew > I think it might be good with this on the front side: /stream> and this on the back: -- Safa Sofuo?lu -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From koski.tuomas at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 09:43:25 2010 From: koski.tuomas at gmail.com (Tuomas Koski) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 16:43:25 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <8f384a461001070441g7b919332w9e024dc862e7f685@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> <8f384a461001070441g7b919332w9e024dc862e7f685@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1d142be31001070743m426cccacucd8d1860def64b4f@mail.gmail.com> HI, I went to bit extreme maybe, but just used following sentences when supporting XMPP at work: "XMPP is something that every developer should try at least once." and "Messaging is nothing without XMPP." I admit that I agitated a bit, but when you do extravagant comments it usually creates good discussions :-) cheers, -- tuoams From nicolas.verite at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 10:32:05 2010 From: nicolas.verite at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_V=E9rit=E9?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:32:05 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <1d142be31001070743m426cccacucd8d1860def64b4f@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> <8f384a461001070441g7b919332w9e024dc862e7f685@mail.gmail.com> <1d142be31001070743m426cccacucd8d1860def64b4f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e2f977f1001070832g6b894c6bo2c853410d7e65225@mail.gmail.com> On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 16:43, Tuomas Koski wrote: > HI, Finally, I think this one is by far the best: "I think therefore IM" Who's the author? -- Nicolas V?rit? (N?co) mailto:nicolas.verite at gmail.com Jabber ID : xmpp:nyco at jabber.fr http://linuxfr.org/ - http://fr.wikipedia.org/ - http://www.jabberfr.org/ http://xmpp.org - http://april.org/ - http://qsos.org/ From kevin at kismith.co.uk Thu Jan 7 11:09:55 2010 From: kevin at kismith.co.uk (Kevin Smith) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 17:09:55 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <6e2f977f1001070832g6b894c6bo2c853410d7e65225@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> <8f384a461001070441g7b919332w9e024dc862e7f685@mail.gmail.com> <1d142be31001070743m426cccacucd8d1860def64b4f@mail.gmail.com> <6e2f977f1001070832g6b894c6bo2c853410d7e65225@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Nicolas V?rit? wrote: > Finally, I think this one is by far the best: > "I think therefore IM" I agree. /K From remko at el-tramo.be Thu Jan 7 11:30:46 2010 From: remko at el-tramo.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Remko_Tron=C3=A7on?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 18:30:46 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <6e2f977f1001070832g6b894c6bo2c853410d7e65225@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <23003.1262805656.452970@puncture> <21469B88E0EA11498818517F2103353111F959A9@EPRI17P32001A.csfb.cs-group.com> <4ee6decd1001061152s6dda9398uad47a683c1f72f9a@mail.gmail.com> <182eea401001061612l147480cel55fc46fcc7a016ae@mail.gmail.com> <4db9cacb1001061713j368d2054m30b73de044590ee7@mail.gmail.com> <8f384a461001070441g7b919332w9e024dc862e7f685@mail.gmail.com> <1d142be31001070743m426cccacucd8d1860def64b4f@mail.gmail.com> <6e2f977f1001070832g6b894c6bo2c853410d7e65225@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <133fd4c61001070930w129c28cete91ad63fcbcb9361@mail.gmail.com> > "I think therefore IM" Didn't we have that one last year? Anyway, I prefer using the one from last year than one that is worse, but I personally think the "Because IM's worth it" is by far the best. I propose a memberbot vote :-) cheers, Remko From nathanfritz at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 12:34:39 2010 From: nathanfritz at gmail.com (Nathan Fritz) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:34:39 -0800 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <70AF06A4-B04A-4665-B271-0EB7A3F01E09@gmail.com> > Because IM's worth it. I don't get it. I also would rather not do an IM pun every year, but it sounds like it is time for a vote -Fritzy From gnauck at ag-software.de Thu Jan 7 12:40:16 2010 From: gnauck at ag-software.de (Alexander Gnauck) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:40:16 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4B45CEC5.2080502@null.ro> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <82D20F76-472B-4AC2-AC35-1DB097A4B816@flosoft.biz> <4B45CEC5.2080502@null.ro> Message-ID: <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> my favorite is still on the front and on the back like we discussed last year. But with a logo this would be 2-3 prints on the shirt which could be too expensive. Alex From smparkes at smparkes.net Thu Jan 7 12:48:39 2010 From: smparkes at smparkes.net (Steven Parkes) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 10:48:39 -0800 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <82D20F76-472B-4AC2-AC35-1DB097A4B816@flosoft.biz> <4B45CEC5.2080502@null.ro> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> Message-ID: <4083A613-5215-498E-BDF4-E717193342D3@smparkes.net> On Jan 7, 2010, at Jan 7,10:40 AM , Alexander Gnauck wrote: > my favorite is still > > on the front > > and > > on the back like we discussed last year. > > But with a logo this would be 2-3 prints on the shirt which could be too > expensive. > > Alex +1 (so far) even if it costs more Can people that can't get to FOSDEM arrange to get one? From js-xmpp-members at webkeks.org Thu Jan 7 13:08:13 2010 From: js-xmpp-members at webkeks.org (Jonathan Schleifer) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 20:08:13 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <82D20F76-472B-4AC2-AC35-1DB097A4B816@flosoft.biz> <4B45CEC5.2080502@null.ro> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> Message-ID: Am 07.01.2010 um 19:40 schrieb Alexander Gnauck: > my favorite is still > > on the front > > and > > on the back like we discussed last > year. > > But with a logo this would be 2-3 prints on the shirt which could be > too expensive. > > Alex +1, this is the best so far. Most of the others sounds like someone tried as hard as he could to find a pun but did not succeed. And many of them might infringe trademarks, for example, stay connected is used by Nokia IIRC. -- Jonathan From stpeter at stpeter.im Thu Jan 7 13:09:31 2010 From: stpeter at stpeter.im (Peter Saint-Andre) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:09:31 -0700 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <82D20F76-472B-4AC2-AC35-1DB097A4B816@flosoft.biz> <4B45CEC5.2080502@null.ro> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> Message-ID: <4B46316B.1090800@stpeter.im> On 1/7/10 11:40 AM, Alexander Gnauck wrote: > my favorite is still > > on the front > > and > > on the back like we discussed last year. > > But with a logo this would be 2-3 prints on the shirt which could be too > expensive. Yes I've always liked that one, although printing front and back is more expensive as you say. 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I would pay and wear that happily. Cheers, -- tuomas From justin at affinix.com Thu Jan 7 13:39:56 2010 From: justin at affinix.com (Justin Karneges) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 11:39:56 -0800 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> On Thursday 07 January 2010 11:18:51 Tuomas Koski wrote: > Hi, > > 2010/1/7 Alexander Gnauck : > > my favorite is still > > > > on the front > > > > and > > > > on the back like we discussed last year. > > > > But with a logo this would be 2-3 prints on the shirt which could be too > > expensive. > > IMHO this is the best so far. What is considered as "expensive"? I > would pay and wear that happily. Yup I really like this too, if it is a valid option. From remko at el-tramo.be Thu Jan 7 13:43:24 2010 From: remko at el-tramo.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Remko_Tron=C3=A7on?=) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 20:43:24 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> Message-ID: <133fd4c61001071143t650bc5c4k6f25af42bd827c4d@mail.gmail.com> > Yup I really like this too, if it is a valid option. I guess it's ok, apart from being a ripoff of the HTML t-shirt. Given the cost and un-originality, I'ld go for the same slogan as last year then. cheers, Remko From koski.tuomas at gmail.com Thu Jan 7 14:10:22 2010 From: koski.tuomas at gmail.com (Tuomas Koski) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 21:10:22 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <133fd4c61001071143t650bc5c4k6f25af42bd827c4d@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <133fd4c61001071143t650bc5c4k6f25af42bd827c4d@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <1d142be31001071210h3f8f33a8hb1781f7fd7cbb467@mail.gmail.com> HI, 2010/1/7 Remko Tron?on : >> Yup I really like this too, if it is a valid option. > > I guess it's ok, apart from being a ripoff of the HTML t-shirt. Given > the cost and un-originality, I'ld go for the same slogan as last year > then. How about different XEPs then like "XEP-0224: Attention" or "XEP-0020: Feature Negotiation" ? This starts to get getting rather desperate :-) cheers, -- tuomas From stpeter at stpeter.im Thu Jan 7 16:15:00 2010 From: stpeter at stpeter.im (Peter Saint-Andre) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:15:00 -0700 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> Message-ID: <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> On 1/7/10 12:39 PM, Justin Karneges wrote: > On Thursday 07 January 2010 11:18:51 Tuomas Koski wrote: >> Hi, >> >> 2010/1/7 Alexander Gnauck : >>> my favorite is still >>> >>> on the front >>> >>> and >>> >>> on the back like we discussed last year. >>> >>> But with a logo this would be 2-3 prints on the shirt which could be too >>> expensive. >> IMHO this is the best so far. What is considered as "expensive"? I >> would pay and wear that happily. > > Yup I really like this too, if it is a valid option. It's quite valid, now we need someone to make the actual design and contact a t-shirt company. :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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What is considered as "expensive"? I >>> would pay and wear that happily. >> >> Yup I really like this too, if it is a valid option. > > It's quite valid, now we need someone to make the actual design and > contact a t-shirt company. :) > > -- Bear bear42 at gmail.com (xmpp, email) bear at code-bear.com (xmpp, email) http://code-bear.com/bearlog (weblog) PGP Fingerprint = 9996 719F 973D B11B E111 D770 9331 E822 40B3 CD29 From stpeter at stpeter.im Thu Jan 7 16:18:56 2010 From: stpeter at stpeter.im (Peter Saint-Andre) Date: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 15:18:56 -0700 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> Message-ID: <4B465DD0.3030803@stpeter.im> On 1/7/10 3:17 PM, bear wrote: > oh - now that's a great idea! 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Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 6820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From admin at flosoft.biz Thu Jan 7 18:49:51 2010 From: admin at flosoft.biz (Florian Jensen) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 00:49:51 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> Message-ID: <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> Maybe one last suggestion: IM IMpossible to live with out! --Florian On 7 Jan 2010, at 22:17, bear wrote: > oh - now that's a great idea! > > +1 > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 17:15, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 1/7/10 12:39 PM, Justin Karneges wrote: >>> On Thursday 07 January 2010 11:18:51 Tuomas Koski wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> 2010/1/7 Alexander Gnauck : >>>>> my favorite is still >>>>> >>>>> on the front >>>>> >>>>> and >>>>> >>>>> on the back like we discussed last year. >>>>> >>>>> But with a logo this would be 2-3 prints on the shirt which could be too >>>>> expensive. >>>> IMHO this is the best so far. What is considered as "expensive"? I >>>> would pay and wear that happily. >>> >>> Yup I really like this too, if it is a valid option. >> >> It's quite valid, now we need someone to make the actual design and >> contact a t-shirt company. :) >> >> > > > > -- > Bear > > bear42 at gmail.com (xmpp, email) > bear at code-bear.com (xmpp, email) > http://code-bear.com/bearlog (weblog) > > PGP Fingerprint = 9996 719F 973D B11B E111 D770 9331 E822 40B3 CD29 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From nathanfritz at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 01:17:21 2010 From: nathanfritz at gmail.com (Nathan Fritz) Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:17:21 -0800 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> You wouldn't use a proprietary protocol for web and email. You don't have to for IM. Break free; XMPP. That's my serious and verbose submission. From dave at cridland.net Fri Jan 8 02:43:49 2010 From: dave at cridland.net (Dave Cridland) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 08:43:49 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <7185.1262940229.394901@puncture> On Fri Jan 8 00:49:51 2010, Florian Jensen wrote: > Maybe one last suggestion: > > IM IMpossible to live with out! > > "Mission: IM Possible" Something Ralph and I muttered darkly about was the possibility of using more than one slogan/design. Either so XMPP folk can be more discerning in their attire, or maybe to give the average FOSDEM attendee a change of clothes... ;-) Dave. -- Dave Cridland - mailto:dave at cridland.net - xmpp:dwd at dave.cridland.net - acap://acap.dave.cridland.net/byowner/user/dwd/bookmarks/ - http://dave.cridland.net/ Infotrope Polymer - ACAP, IMAP, ESMTP, and Lemonade From peter at retep.org.uk Fri Jan 8 02:57:31 2010 From: peter at retep.org.uk (Peter Mount) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 08:57:31 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <85bf933e1001080057m3d693db3n5b56ecdd75d97d87@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 7:17 AM, Nathan Fritz wrote: > You wouldn't use a proprietary protocol for web and email. You don't > have to for IM. Break free; XMPP. > > That's my serious and verbose submission. > That one I like... -- Peter Mount e: peter at retep.org.uk w: http://retep.org xmpp:peter at retep.org msn: retep207 at hotmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From js-xmpp-members at webkeks.org Fri Jan 8 04:12:18 2010 From: js-xmpp-members at webkeks.org (Jonathan Schleifer) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 11:12:18 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8EE5CFBA-C605-451B-9EE2-AE7B784AEE18@webkeks.org> Am 08.01.2010 um 08:17 schrieb Nathan Fritz: > You wouldn't use a proprietary protocol for web and email. You don't > have to for IM. Break free; XMPP. > > That's my serious and verbose submission. Nice one. If we are verbose anyway, I'd suggest to write instant messaging, though. I guess there are some average users out there that know instant messaging, but not the acronym IM. -- Jonathan From jabberfoundation at ralphm.ik.nu Fri Jan 8 05:58:17 2010 From: jabberfoundation at ralphm.ik.nu (Ralph Meijer) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 12:58:17 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <7185.1262940229.394901@puncture> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <7185.1262940229.394901@puncture> Message-ID: <1262951897.4216.1.camel@dwaal> On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 08:43 +0000, Dave Cridland wrote: > On Fri Jan 8 00:49:51 2010, Florian Jensen wrote: > > Maybe one last suggestion: > > > > IM IMpossible to live with out! > > > > > "Mission: IM Possible" > > Something Ralph and I muttered darkly about was the possibility of > using more than one slogan/design. Either so XMPP folk can be more > discerning in their attire, or maybe to give the average FOSDEM > attendee a change of clothes... ;-) Indeed. I'm resuggesting "IM the world" http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrys/192730229/ Obviously, Jabber can be replaced by XMPP here. ralphm From kevin at kismith.co.uk Fri Jan 8 06:03:35 2010 From: kevin at kismith.co.uk (Kevin Smith) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:03:35 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <1262951897.4216.1.camel@dwaal> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <7185.1262940229.394901@puncture> <1262951897.4216.1.camel@dwaal> Message-ID: On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Ralph Meijer wrote: > Indeed. I'm resuggesting "IM the world" "Think I'M interesting?" My favourite is still last year's, though - by quite a long way. /K From remko at el-tramo.be Fri Jan 8 08:49:47 2010 From: remko at el-tramo.be (=?UTF-8?Q?Remko_Tron=C3=A7on?=) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:49:47 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <7185.1262940229.394901@puncture> <1262951897.4216.1.camel@dwaal> Message-ID: <133fd4c61001080649r1a678eb8hd09ff0348480c223@mail.gmail.com> > My favourite is still last year's, though - by quite a long way. Face it, you just want the same T-shirt like the cool one we already have, just because you didn't make it to last year's FOSDEM. cheers, Remko From glegales at aucafe.fr Fri Jan 8 08:56:38 2010 From: glegales at aucafe.fr (Guillaume Le Gales) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:56:38 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <133fd4c61001080649r1a678eb8hd09ff0348480c223@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <7185.1262940229.394901@puncture> <1262951897.4216.1.camel@dwaal> <133fd4c61001080649r1a678eb8hd09ff0348480c223@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <3ee172a91001080656y5660c7a1o511eab38ac222f36@mail.gmail.com> I suggest something like : "Push your limits" or "Push your ideas" ... Le 8 janvier 2010 15:49, Remko Tron?on a ?crit : > > My favourite is still last year's, though - by quite a long way. > > Face it, you just want the same T-shirt like the cool one we already > have, just because you didn't make it to last year's FOSDEM. > > cheers, > Remko > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From admin at flosoft.biz Fri Jan 8 09:27:18 2010 From: admin at flosoft.biz (Florian Jensen) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 15:27:18 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP Summit #8 in Brussels Message-ID: Hey guys, first of all, this will be my last E-mail to all XMPP Mailinglists. Future E-mails will all go to the Summit Mailinglist: summit at xmpp.org. You can subscribe here: http://mail.jabber.org/mailman/listinfo/summit The XSF has decided to hold it's XMPP Summit in the Best Western - Carrefour de L'Europe Hotel in the centre of Brussels (http://xmpp.org/summit/summit8.shtml#hotel). We also have a special deal available for all XSF Members, a single or double / twin room for 109? / night. Room sharing is encouraged and we can hook people up on the Summit Mailinglist, or just contact me directly (http://xmpp.org/summit/summit8.shtml#contact). For anyone who then wants to order the room, I will send you a special order form that needs to be faxed (yes, I'm sorry about that), to the Hotel. Please note: We only have this deal until the 15th of January. Greets, Florian Jensen From luca.tagliaferri at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 14:20:56 2010 From: luca.tagliaferri at gmail.com (luca) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:20:56 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <4B4793A8.6060500@gmail.com> My proposals 1) Born to be online 2) Born to XMPP 3) Born to message 4) Born to chat Florian Jensen ha scritto: > Hey guys, > > with FOSDEM coming up in exactly a month, we wanted to ask you all for your input. > > Last year, we had official XMPP shirts which were a big hit at FOSDEM. So we'd like to do the same this year, but we're looking for a slogan to print on them. > > Last year we had: I think, therefore IM. > > What should it be this year? > > Any other feedback on the shirts if of course welcome :) > > Greets, > > Florian > From luca.tagliaferri at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 14:23:47 2010 From: luca.tagliaferri at gmail.com (luca) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:23:47 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <4B479453.5040606@gmail.com> 5) presence does matter 6) XMPP does it better 7) XMPP does IM better Florian Jensen ha scritto: > Hey guys, > > with FOSDEM coming up in exactly a month, we wanted to ask you all for your input. > > Last year, we had official XMPP shirts which were a big hit at FOSDEM. So we'd like to do the same this year, but we're looking for a slogan to print on them. > > Last year we had: I think, therefore IM. > > What should it be this year? > > Any other feedback on the shirts if of course welcome :) > > Greets, > > Florian > From pradeepe at gmail.com Fri Jan 8 14:24:22 2010 From: pradeepe at gmail.com (Pradeep Elankumaran) Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:24:22 -0800 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4B479453.5040606@gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B479453.5040606@gmail.com> Message-ID: <88ce072b1001081224j4abaef01g46a29125f50e5da9@mail.gmail.com> following up on 5 - I like: does matter On Fri, Jan 8, 2010 at 12:23 PM, luca wrote: > 5) presence does matter > > 6) XMPP does it better > > 7) XMPP does IM better > > Florian Jensen ha scritto: > > Hey guys, >> >> with FOSDEM coming up in exactly a month, we wanted to ask you all for >> your input. >> >> Last year, we had official XMPP shirts which were a big hit at FOSDEM. So >> we'd like to do the same this year, but we're looking for a slogan to print >> on them. >> >> Last year we had: I think, therefore IM. >> >> What should it be this year? >> >> Any other feedback on the shirts if of course welcome :) >> >> Greets, >> >> Florian >> >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stpeter at stpeter.im Fri Jan 8 14:25:07 2010 From: stpeter at stpeter.im (Peter Saint-Andre) Date: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:25:07 -0700 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4B4793A8.6060500@gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B4793A8.6060500@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B4794A3.5040704@stpeter.im> On 1/8/10 1:20 PM, luca wrote: > 4) Born to chat We might be able to sell a lot of those in women's sizes. :) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 6820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From diana-liste at null.ro Sun Jan 10 13:03:54 2010 From: diana-liste at null.ro (Diana Cionoiu) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:03:54 +0200 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B4A249A.90404@null.ro> This is like the best slogan I've saw. It's clear. And it does touch the geek audience at FOSDEM. Diana Nathan Fritz wrote: > You wouldn't use a proprietary protocol for web and email. You don't > have to for IM. Break free; XMPP. > > That's my serious and verbose submission. > From bear42 at gmail.com Sun Jan 10 13:12:22 2010 From: bear42 at gmail.com (bear) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 14:12:22 -0500 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <4B4A249A.90404@null.ro> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> <4B4A249A.90404@null.ro> Message-ID: a variant that fits on a shirt :) Your web is open, Your email is open, why not your IM break free; XMPP On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 14:03, Diana Cionoiu wrote: > This is like the best slogan I've saw. > It's clear. And it does touch the geek audience at FOSDEM. > > Diana > > Nathan Fritz wrote: >> >> You wouldn't use a proprietary protocol for web and email. You don't >> have to for IM. Break free; XMPP. >> >> That's my serious and verbose submission. >> > > -- Bear bear42 at gmail.com (xmpp, email) bear at code-bear.com (xmpp, email) http://code-bear.com/bearlog (weblog) PGP Fingerprint = 9996 719F 973D B11B E111 D770 9331 E822 40B3 CD29 From admin at flosoft.biz Sun Jan 10 15:55:07 2010 From: admin at flosoft.biz (Florian Jensen) Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 21:55:07 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> <4B4A249A.90404@null.ro> Message-ID: <9071ED38-568B-4CAC-B664-D6036E047082@flosoft.biz> On 10 Jan 2010, at 19:12, bear wrote: > Your web is open, > Your email is open, > why not your IM > > break free; XMPP I like! From diana-liste at null.ro Sun Jan 10 16:07:48 2010 From: diana-liste at null.ro (Diana Cionoiu) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:07:48 +0200 Subject: [Members] XMPP T-Shirts - Call for ideas In-Reply-To: <9071ED38-568B-4CAC-B664-D6036E047082@flosoft.biz> References: <96214C96-FC31-42BD-A4F4-11652C9DD957@flosoft.biz> <4B462A90.80909@ag-software.de> <1d142be31001071118r49cd1494o452cb3a6fccf93b3@mail.gmail.com> <201001071139.56796.justin@affinix.com> <4B465CE4.7060003@stpeter.im> <5C37F382-CB43-4C39-A321-A6A5C134DD73@flosoft.biz> <182eea401001072317n2e700bb5s7146f4887d8bfc69@mail.gmail.com> <4B4A249A.90404@null.ro> <9071ED38-568B-4CAC-B664-D6036E047082@flosoft.biz> Message-ID: <4B4A4FB4.3050003@null.ro> So do I. It's very cool. Diana Florian Jensen wrote: > On 10 Jan 2010, at 19:12, bear wrote: > > >> Your web is open, >> Your email is open, >> why not your IM >> >> break free; XMPP >> > > I like! > From stpeter at stpeter.im Mon Jan 11 17:41:52 2010 From: stpeter at stpeter.im (Peter Saint-Andre) Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 16:41:52 -0700 Subject: [Members] Board minutes, 2010-01-06 Message-ID: <4B4BB740.7060704@stpeter.im> XSF Board Meeting, 2010-01-06 Board members present: Florian Jensen, Jack Moffitt, Will Sheward, Nicolas V?rit? (quorum achieved) Agenda provided by Jack Moffitt: 0. Agenda Bashing 1. Election of Officers * Chairman of the Board * Secretary * Treasurer * others? 2. Account Software for Treasury Management 3. XMPP Summit Preparations and Planning * Hotel accomodations * Initial agendas * Dinner 4. Any Other Business 5. Next Meeting *** 0. No agenda bashing 1. Election of Officers 1a. Chair. Jack Moffitt volunteered, no other volunteers, Jack the unanimous choice. 1b. Secretary. Alexander Gnauck has volunteered to serve again, unanimously accepted by the Board. 1c. Treasurer. Discussion about how to proceed given that the current treasurer is not really engaged in the work of the XSF. Agreed that Jack and Peter will share the responsibilities and both have signing authority on the checking account. Jack and Peter also to investigate programs and formats, starting with gnucash. 1d. Executive Director. Peter expressed a willingness to serve again, unanimously accepted by the Board. 1e. XMPP Extensions Editor. It's not clear if the Board needs to officially appoint the XMPP Extensions Editor at its annual meeting (e.g., this is not defined in the Bylaws because the Editor is not an officer). However, the Board appointed Peter again to continue in this role. 2. Account Software for Treasury Management Jack and Peter to investigate gnucash. 3. XMPP Summit Preparations and Planning * Hotel accomodations * Initial agendas * Dinner 3a. Board agreement to move forward with the Best Western Premier - Carrefour de L'Europe. Thanks to Florian for his work on this. 3b. Agenda being worked on by Ralph Meijer, Jack Moffitt, and others. 3c. Florian investigating locations for XSF dinner in Brussels. 4. Any Other Business 4b. Discussed t-shirts for sale at FOSDEM, Florian issued call for input on the members at xmpp.org list. 5. Next Meeting January 13 @ 18:00-18:30 UTC, xmpp:board at muc.xmpp.org?join ### CHAT LOG FOLLOWS ### (all times Mountain Standard Time) *** 2010-01-06 [10:28:54] evening lads [10:30:17] evening [10:54:12] I *knew* there was a reason this window was open! [10:56:19] evening [10:56:43] evening Will [11:02:03] oh, it's time [11:02:49] one second. finishign up something. [11:02:59] ok :) [11:04:06] ok. all done [11:04:25] and we;re all here, so quorum achieved [11:05:08] # Board Agenda for January 6th, 2010 0. Agenda Bashing 1. Election of Officers * Chairman of the Board * Secretary * Treasurer * others? 2. Account Software for Treasury Management 3. XMPP Summit Preparations and Planning * Hotel accomodations * Initial agendas * Dinner 4. Any Other Business 5. Next Meeting [11:05:49] I couldn't remember if there were other officers [11:05:52] Peter is missing? [11:06:26] I've invited him [11:05:49] *** The topic has been set to: XSF Board Room [11:05:51] there we go :) [11:05:56] oops, I went to the old room :) [11:06:10] :-) [11:06:36] *jack bangs the gavel [11:06:44] and I was wondering why nobody was there :) [11:07:01] Peter: are there any officers besides secretary and treasurer and chairman that we need to appoint? [11:07:39] secretary, treasurer, executive director, and the board needs to choose its chair [11:08:07] ah, ED [11:08:14] it's a bit unclear whether the board needs to appoint the XMPP Extensions Editor, but in any case that role is not an officer [11:08:36] Is there any agenda to bash? [11:08:47] seems good [11:09:15] looks good for now :) [11:09:23] if we find more, it'll be AOB :) [11:09:25] ok, on to the elections :) [11:09:29] there's something I'd like to bring up in the next meeting, but no big hurry [11:09:53] Do we have any candidates for Chair? [11:10:25] (I think the XSF needs something like http://www.ietf.org/about/note-well.html but that's for a future meeting, will post to the members list about it I think) [11:10:38] can we just force someone in? [11:10:41] If not, I'm happy to put myself forward for that [11:11:01] :) [11:11:24] open vote? [11:11:49] seems like i'm the only one then. shall we vote? [11:11:57] ok [11:12:02] +1 jack [11:12:05] +1 Jack [11:12:13] of couse, +1 Jack [11:12:15] +1 [11:12:36] ok, one down, a few more to go [11:12:46] next secretary? [11:12:47] did anyone dig up candidates for secretary? [11:13:00] Alex offered to go for that position [11:13:10] yes, alex volunteered [11:13:13] well Jack is Mr. XMPP you know http://twitter.com/shauntrennery/status/7434097127 [11:13:25] oh yeah, i was going to mention that :-) [11:13:34] hahaha [11:13:39] i hadn't see that one :) [11:14:03] found via http://collecta.com/#q=xmpp [11:14:17] is alex here? [11:14:27] (also, which alex?) [11:14:27] he's offline [11:14:28] jack: not at the moment [11:14:32] Alexander Gnauck [11:14:41] so, +1 Alex [11:14:45] i'm +1 on alex [11:14:46] +1 [11:14:52] +1 [11:15:06] http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/members/2010-January/005575.html "I volunteer for the Secretary duties again." [11:15:11] Ok. Candidates for treasurer? [11:15:30] that's a tough one [11:15:33] who was treasurer? [11:15:42] for the last N years, it's been christina [11:15:45] Christina Millard, Peter's widow [11:15:56] before that it was Michael Bauer [11:16:03] before that Stuart Lucko [11:16:15] but none of them ever really did anything because I handled it all ;-) [11:16:23] :) [11:16:26] not that there's much to do [11:16:29] can someone be two positions at once? [11:16:40] but our finances could be much more organized [11:16:42] yes [11:16:47] a sort of a quantum board member? [11:16:52] I was Secretary and Executive Director for a long time [11:17:05] until Alex volunteered [11:17:19] If no-one wants to be treasurer, I could do that [11:17:58] Will that work logistically? [11:18:02] I see that we have a page about http://xmpp.org/xsf/secretary.shtml [11:18:15] and http://xmpp.org/xsf/treasurer.shtml [11:18:16] that's the question, being outside the US and all... [11:19:06] i assume there's no page for treasurer [11:19:10] ideally the treasurer would have signing authority on the checking account [11:19:15] jack: http://xmpp.org/xsf/treasurer.shtml [11:19:22] but duties are probably, 1) write checks 2) keep books 3) finance report [11:19:40] right :) [11:20:12] How eager are you to stop writing checks, Peter? [11:20:19] not at all :) [11:20:24] I'm not eager, I just want some checks and balances :) [11:20:36] If Peter wants to the position, I think that would be the best fit [11:20:49] If you're godo tos till write the checks, then I think we can have you do #1 and florian can take #2 + #3 [11:20:51] typically I've paid for things myself and then reimbursed myself (e.g., for conferences) [11:21:14] I have a bit of concern about the bus factor [11:21:22] ok [11:21:27] bus factor? [11:21:34] I could do #1 as well [11:21:40] I'm OK with having signing authority and I think that has worked fine [11:21:45] then at least we'd have two check signers [11:21:58] but if I get hit by a bus and no one else can sign checks, things might get messy [11:22:05] right [11:22:27] FlorianJORG: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_factor [11:23:56] Ok. so sounds like there are a few choices. 1) Florian + stpeter 2) stepeter 3) jack + florian 4) ?? [11:24:11] stpeter + jack? [11:24:26] I'm fine with that. it sounds like it would be helpful to have another signer regardless [11:24:28] we're talking about signing check, right? [11:24:43] that's not only the treasurer? [11:24:44] well Florian could maintain the books and Jack and I could have signing authority on checks [11:25:10] N?co: currently I am the only person who has signing authority (even Christina was not set up with the bank) [11:26:03] N?co: and Jack has an account with the same bank (Wells Fargo) so we could set him up fairly easily [11:26:13] Ok, perhaps it's easiest if I just volunteer to do the whole shebang :) [11:26:14] it might be more difficult for Florian :) [11:26:14] ok [11:26:34] +1 for jack [11:27:11] jack: keeping the books could be a more general responsibility -- and as I've said, the books need some cleaning, I could probably spend a full day on it once we decide on a software package to use [11:27:30] any other votes? [11:27:49] peter: agreed. if we can get it into something anyone can use, this position won't be such a bear. [11:28:18] yes [11:28:24] really there is not much financial activity [11:28:55] I just want to make sure that we do everything in the open [11:29:08] right now I could be taking funds and no one would know it [11:29:23] not that I would do such a thing, naturally :) [11:29:37] not that we have any funds for you to take for that matter :-) [11:29:43] :) [11:29:43] Will: good point! [11:30:17] if he was, he'd be doing more fundraising anyway :) [11:30:37] I get paid enough in my real job :P [11:30:38] ok [11:30:41] so consensus? [11:30:45] so as long as he's not full bore on raising money, we can have some confidence he's probably not embezzling any :) [11:30:53] :) [11:31:04] +1 for myself [11:31:06] oh .... good [11:31:10] still waiting on votes from will and nyco [11:31:12] +1 [11:31:33] +1 for peter + jack [11:32:15] +1 jack [11:32:41] ok. and we have the final position, Executive Director [11:32:41] +1 for jack :) [11:32:43] sorry :) [11:32:48] eh ... [11:32:58] ED, stpeter I guess will be standing? [11:32:59] peter: are you offering your candidacy this year? :) [11:34:03] I am happy to serve again [11:34:10] BTW http://xmpp.org/xsf/secretary.shtml updated [11:34:11] anyone else? [11:34:30] the Executive Director is mostly a figurehead anyway :) [11:34:32] +1 for stpeter :) [11:34:37] *** darco (darco at deepdarc.com/bellatrix) has joined the room as a participant [11:34:38] +1 for stpeter [11:34:45] _1 stpeter [11:34:46] http://xmpp.org/xsf/director.shtml [11:34:51] +1 i mean :-) [11:35:19] nyco: ? [11:35:34] it's a tough decision, i know; feel free to take your time :) [11:35:49] +1 [11:35:56] especially in the face of these embezzlement talks [11:35:56] sorry ;-) [11:36:19] ok, all officers elected. [11:36:29] we're supposed to appoint the editor as well i guess [11:37:04] stpeter: up for another year? [11:37:44] sure [11:37:55] it's not clear if the Board needs to appoint the editor [11:37:57] but why not :) [11:38:26] +1 on stpeter [11:38:36] +1 [11:38:54] +1 [11:39:24] +1 [11:39:29] XEP-0001 says "The XMPP Extensions Editor is the individual appointed by the XSF Board of Directors to handle protocol submissions and provide day-to-day management of the XSF's standards process." but there's nothing in the Bylaws about it [11:40:08] I suppose we could clear that up if you think it needs to be [11:40:09] anyway I think it makes sense for the Board to appoint the editor, for completeness and accountability [11:40:19] ocnsider yourself appointed :) [11:40:24] :) [11:40:25] on to agenda item #2 [11:40:41] I looked at a few things. It seems gnucash got a lot better since last time i looked [11:41:02] and it runs everywhere now, so i suggest we try that and fallback to openoffice calc if that doesn't pan out [11:41:41] ok [11:41:43] they have a native macosx gnucash now? [11:41:43] WFM [11:42:24] i don't know if its native. but they show it as supported [11:42:29] *darco nods [11:42:39] BTW http://xmpp.org/xsf/treasurer.shtml updated [11:42:42] guess we'll find out. [11:42:44] ok #3 [11:42:54] jack and I will explore that [11:42:57] downloading for OS X now [11:43:26] I wrote down hotel, dinner, and initial agenda, but there might be other summit topics we need to hammer out [11:43:35] T-Shirts :) [11:43:43] but let's start with the rest [11:43:46] another item it just thought of is stpeter's attendence [11:44:17] are you going? if not, we should probably figure out how to get the banners there etc [11:44:37] I haven't been planning to but I can reconsider [11:45:02] It's always fun to hang out with you :) [11:45:10] the new TSA rules sound annoying :P [11:45:15] agreed :( [11:45:17] true [11:45:21] luckily most of them are gone i think [11:45:24] America's paranoia :) [11:45:32] FlorianJORG: indeed [11:45:34] they lasted all of two days [11:46:07] my concern was more that i'm sure there are some on-site details that you normally take care of, and i just want to make sure we hand that off to someone if you aren't going to be there. [11:46:39] the main detail is that I use my credit card to pay for meeting rooms :P [11:46:48] :p [11:46:53] I can handle that if you aren't there. [11:47:13] I'll give it some thought and chat with my wife about it [11:47:20] ok cool [11:47:24] i'll put it on the next meeting's agenda [11:47:29] :) [11:47:29] how's the hotel search? [11:47:32] ok [11:47:37] I've sent 3 hotels to the ML [11:47:45] it's hard to find hotels with big conference rooms [11:47:55] Radisson is expensive [11:48:05] it's 75? * 40 people [11:48:23] yeah [11:48:28] personally [11:48:34] my favorite is best western [11:48:39] they offered quite a lot [11:48:46] and went down with their pricing [11:48:48] it's a great location [11:48:57] and we also have a room deal [11:48:58] that sounds good to me [11:49:08] the hotel we choose last time wasn't special in any way [11:49:10] that was 35? * 40 people [11:49:16] the best western was 588 Euros for the room? [11:49:22] 35 sounds much more reasonable [11:49:27] right [11:49:32] indeed! [11:49:37] easy decision i think [11:49:41] Radisson we're complaining about how different and better they are [11:49:45] so not lowering pricing [11:49:57] so for Best Western [11:50:03] +1 [11:50:07] do we want the Sandwich Buffet? [11:50:13] it has quite a lot included [11:50:18] Soup and Deset [11:50:25] 6-7 types of sandwiches [11:50:36] and enough of them ... at least 3 per person [11:50:41] we'd get more done that way, possibly, instead of having a long lunch break (although that's rather civilized :) [11:50:42] and Pasta [11:51:06] personally, I think eating out might be nicer [11:51:11] and the XSF won't need to pay for it :) [11:51:22] eating out shuffles people around [11:51:31] and leads to some interesting lunch talks [11:51:39] I've always thought that the lunch break is good, people have interesting conversations, etc. [11:51:40] yeah [11:51:44] +1 on leaving the hotel for a lunch break. whole day in one room makes me tired. [11:51:57] right. [11:52:02] So I'll call Best Western tomorrow [11:52:06] and get that booked [11:52:08] +1 on fresh air for lunch [11:52:10] great [11:52:18] what about thursday? [11:52:18] yay! [11:52:20] eh friday [11:52:26] ah [11:52:30] how many people on that day? [11:52:44] I think we probably won't have as many people unless we advertise is more widely [11:52:50] my guess is half [11:52:52] ok [11:52:53] if that. [11:52:56] about half last time [11:53:01] so 20-25 on Friday [11:53:03] 40 on Monday [11:53:04] yes [11:53:19] great [11:53:27] and I'll get info about the Room Deal [11:53:32] how we need to refer people [11:53:34] that's what we did the last few years and it worked well, I think [11:53:41] FlorianJORG: super [11:53:42] cool. now initial agenda. did we do a call for presentations, etc? [11:54:07] jack: yes, we need to coordinate with Ralph about that and put out one last call for more talks [11:54:35] well, are we ok for having Friday being a more hands-on session? [11:54:40] i.e. hack-a-day [11:54:45] I think it would be especially good to have something about microblogging because the FOSDEM folks said that microblogging would get folded into our devroom [11:54:51] FlorianJORG: yes [11:55:36] FlorianJORG: perhaps we can have a few "tracks" on Friday, e.g., Python and JavaScript and Lua and Erlang or whatever -- some hands-on hacking and perhaps tutorials of some kind [11:55:45] not sure [11:55:52] it's up to us what we want to do :) [11:55:57] the tracks sound good to me [11:56:17] jack: I'm sure you'd have some fun things to say about JavaScript + XMPP ;-) [11:56:23] always :) [11:56:25] :) [11:56:51] how about dinner? [11:56:55] and it would be cool to have some hacking sessions on Prosody and Ejabberd and Twisted or whatever [11:56:58] Dinner, I'll get on it [11:57:04] just needed to know the hotel first [11:57:09] so we don't walk too far :) [11:57:10] FlorianJORG: ok thanks [11:57:11] ok great [11:57:12] heh [11:57:17] no bus this time? [11:57:17] do we ned to drum up funds? [11:57:19] if so, how much? [11:57:25] that place was good, but far :) [11:57:32] It'll be more [11:57:37] *stpeter still have the image of the metro station in his head [11:57:42] lol :D [11:57:47] :-( [11:57:53] it'll be around 30-40? / person [11:58:02] how many people did we have last year? [11:58:02] but we drummed up quite some money last year [11:58:06] 40 [11:58:08] 43 [11:58:11] afair [11:58:13] jack: for dinner or for the summit? [11:58:15] so plan for 1500 euros? [11:58:25] somewhere in that range [11:58:27] yeah, I'm confident I can bug enough people :) [11:58:34] 1,5-2k [11:58:37] with drinks etc. [11:58:46] we paid 1,4k last year [11:58:46] ok, let's shoot for 2k, and if we have leftover we'll apply it to next summit dinner [11:58:48] including drinks [11:59:16] we COULD go to the same place, and get a bus :) [11:59:32] depends on the price of hte bus :) [11:59:40] but seems a reasonable alternative [11:59:42] last year we did dinner on Sunday, right? [11:59:43] it's the difference of: 25? / person to 35? [11:59:49] yeah, was a Sunday [11:59:53] I guess same this year? [11:59:56] i think sunday is perfect [12:00:08] WFM [12:00:22] I'll check the prices of distant restaurant + bus [12:00:25] or local restaurant [12:00:27] we'll see [12:00:29] sounds like it's all coming together once again :) [12:00:30] ok [12:00:37] jack: thanks to Florian [12:00:38] would be fun to have a bus with XMPP on :D [12:00:43] he deserves a medal of some kind [12:00:46] heh [12:00:46] :) [12:00:49] Any other business? [12:00:55] (we're right at an hour) [12:00:58] none here [12:01:06] or here [12:01:06] I can write the minutes [12:01:22] stpeter: thanks [12:01:25] ooh, they do sponsoring :) [12:01:28] (Bus company) [12:01:29] we forgot to do this last time [12:01:38] but +1 on publishing log+minutes to members [12:01:40] jack: this = ? [12:01:43] ah [12:01:50] AOB [12:01:52] T-Shirts [12:01:55] i assuemd that's what we would have decided so did it last time :) [12:01:58] I prefer open, so yes to publishing [12:02:09] yeah, t-shirts [12:02:12] or perhaps better just to ask for objections [12:02:12] new design? [12:02:26] i will assume none unless people say otherwise [12:02:33] shirts were a hit last time. [12:02:37] indeed [12:02:45] +1 on doing that again, but no nothing about those logistics. [12:02:48] Don't mess with me, IM connected [12:02:54] t-shirts: if new design someone else will have to come up with it - i have no time for anything at the moment [12:02:55] haha [12:02:57] props to Dave for that one [12:03:00] let's put it to the members list to come up with slogans? [12:03:01] Will: ok [12:03:05] onte that we'll need to order in the next 2 weeks or so [12:03:07] note [12:03:09] i can probably whip up a designer to do a free design with that [12:03:20] would be cool :) [12:03:30] yeah, Will: we can send them to Brussels directly again [12:03:33] no whipping, please, we're nice people! [12:03:33] ok, so someone volunteer to manage the members list for that? set a 10 day deadline? [12:03:37] i've got a car there this year [12:03:38] and i will round up a designer? [12:03:56] jack: I can do that, sure [12:03:58] I can manage the call for ideas [12:04:02] ok [12:04:02] ok cool [12:04:04] so Florian :) [12:04:07] ok :) [12:04:16] *** bear (bear at code-bear.com/mbp) has left the room (Replaced by new connection) [12:04:23] *stpeter is starting to feel like a slacker [12:04:25] next meeting in two weeks? jan 20th? [12:04:31] maybe 1 week? [12:04:40] I think next week to make sure we're on track [12:04:41] seeing as there's a lot going on, and we've got FOSDEM in a few weeks [12:04:44] but try to keep it short [12:04:47] i'm fine for 1 week if we aim to keep it around 30-45 mins [12:04:54] sounds good [12:04:54] +1 to 30 [12:04:56] i'm also ok for next week [12:05:00] nyco? [12:05:02] ok [12:05:05] I'll add it to the calendar [12:05:09] stpeter: thx [12:05:14] ok. Jan 13th, same time. 30 mins :) [12:05:19] yep [12:05:20] I motion to adjourn :) [12:05:24] seconded [12:05:28] thirded [12:05:31] see you guys on the lists :) [12:05:42] thanks all! [12:05:46] cya guys! [12:05:51] *** jack (jack at metajack.im/cactus) has left the room [12:05:52] thx all [12:06:01] I'll send minutes later today or tonight [12:06:27] cool - bye [12:06:30] thx - bye -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Why apply? - Help the XSF with technical reviews and communication efforts - Help elect the XMPP Council, or run for the Council in the future (council candidates must be XSF members) - Help the XSF stay true to its mission of building an open, secure, feature-rich, decentralized infrastructure for real-time communication and collaboration over the Internet Application instructions are available here: http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_January_2010 This application period ends on January 31, so take action today. :) Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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This Q1 application period will run until the end of the > month. > > Why apply? > > - Help the XSF with technical reviews and communication efforts > > - Help elect the XMPP Council, or run for the Council in the future > (council candidates must be XSF members) > > - Help the XSF stay true to its mission of building an open, secure, > feature-rich, decentralized infrastructure for real-time communication > and collaboration over the Internet > > Application instructions are available here: > > http://wiki.xmpp.org/web/Membership_Applications_January_2010 > > This application period ends on January 31, so take action today. :) > > Peter > -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 6820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From stpeter at stpeter.im Wed Jan 13 22:15:17 2010 From: stpeter at stpeter.im (Peter Saint-Andre) Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 21:15:17 -0700 Subject: [Members] proposed changes to XEP-0001 Message-ID: <4B4E9A55.8060507@stpeter.im> Several months ago I reviewed XEP-0001 and noted some things that needed to be fixed (e.g., it still said that experimental XEPs are to be deferred after 6 months of inactivity, whereas we changed that practice to 12 months some time ago). This evening, spurred by a chat that I had today with Dave Cridland, I keyed in my edits and made a few other fixes. The changelog is as follows: * Changed the period for Council objections to submitted proposals from 7 days to 14 days. * Changed the period for automatic deferral of an Experimental XEP from 6 months to 12 months. * Changed the holding period for advancement from Draft to Final from 60 days to 6 months. * Clarified that the Editor is the canonical target for all submissions, not necessarily all questions related to the XSF's standards process. * Clarified that only changes in Draft and Final XEPs that could reasonably be construed as material must be reviewed and voted on by the XMPP Council, thus exempting correction of typographical errors, minor clarifications, and other such errata. * Clarified that Council review is mandatory (not just recommended) regarding IANA registrations initiated by the XMPP Registrar. * Updated some references and added some links. Because the authorizing body for changes to XEP-0001 is the Board of Directors (not the Council), I think it is appropriate to discuss these changes among the XSF membership (IMHO the members at xmpp.org list has the same relation to the Board as the standards at xmpp.org list has to the Council). A rendered copy is here: http://xmpp.org/extensions/tmp/xep-0001-1.20.html Peter -- Peter Saint-Andre https://stpeter.im/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/pkcs7-signature Size: 6820 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature URL: From alexey.melnikov at isode.com Thu Jan 14 05:42:07 2010 From: alexey.melnikov at isode.com (Alexey Melnikov) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 11:42:07 +0000 Subject: [Members] proposed changes to XEP-0001 In-Reply-To: <4B4E9A55.8060507@stpeter.im> References: <4B4E9A55.8060507@stpeter.im> Message-ID: <4B4F030F.20700@isode.com> Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >Several months ago I reviewed XEP-0001 and noted some things that needed >to be fixed (e.g., it still said that experimental XEPs are to be >deferred after 6 months of inactivity, whereas we changed that practice >to 12 months some time ago). This evening, spurred by a chat that I had >today with Dave Cridland, I keyed in my edits and made a few other >fixes. The changelog is as follows: > > * Changed the period for Council objections to submitted proposals >from 7 days to 14 days. > * Changed the period for automatic deferral of an Experimental XEP >from 6 months to 12 months. > * Changed the holding period for advancement from Draft to Final >from 60 days to 6 months. > * Clarified that the Editor is the canonical target for all >submissions, not necessarily all questions related to the XSF's >standards process. > * Clarified that only changes in Draft and Final XEPs that could >reasonably be construed as material must be reviewed and voted on by the >XMPP Council, thus exempting correction of typographical errors, minor >clarifications, and other such errata. > * Clarified that Council review is mandatory (not just recommended) >regarding IANA registrations initiated by the XMPP Registrar. > * Updated some references and added some links. > > I haven't checked the details, but the short version of your changes looks reasonable to me. >Because the authorizing body for changes to XEP-0001 is the Board of >Directors (not the Council), I think it is appropriate to discuss these >changes among the XSF membership (IMHO the members at xmpp.org list has the >same relation to the Board as the standards at xmpp.org list has to the >Council). > >A rendered copy is here: > >http://xmpp.org/extensions/tmp/xep-0001-1.20.html > >Peter > > > -- IETF Application Area Director, Internet Messaging Team Lead, JID: same as my email address From bear42 at gmail.com Thu Jan 14 07:43:19 2010 From: bear42 at gmail.com (bear) Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:43:19 -0500 Subject: [Members] proposed changes to XEP-0001 In-Reply-To: <4B4E9A55.8060507@stpeter.im> References: <4B4E9A55.8060507@stpeter.im> Message-ID: +1 to the changes - thanks On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 23:15, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: > Several months ago I reviewed XEP-0001 and noted some things that needed > to be fixed (e.g., it still said that experimental XEPs are to be > deferred after 6 months of inactivity, whereas we changed that practice > to 12 months some time ago). This evening, spurred by a chat that I had > today with Dave Cridland, I keyed in my edits and made a few other > fixes. The changelog is as follows: > > ? ?* Changed the period for Council objections to submitted proposals > from 7 days to 14 days. > ? ?* Changed the period for automatic deferral of an Experimental XEP > from 6 months to 12 months. > ? ?* Changed the holding period for advancement from Draft to Final > from 60 days to 6 months. > ? ?* Clarified that the Editor is the canonical target for all > submissions, not necessarily all questions related to the XSF's > standards process. > ? ?* Clarified that only changes in Draft and Final XEPs that could > reasonably be construed as material must be reviewed and voted on by the > XMPP Council, thus exempting correction of typographical errors, minor > clarifications, and other such errata. > ? ?* Clarified that Council review is mandatory (not just recommended) > regarding IANA registrations initiated by the XMPP Registrar. > ? ?* Updated some references and added some links. > > Because the authorizing body for changes to XEP-0001 is the Board of > Directors (not the Council), I think it is appropriate to discuss these > changes among the XSF membership (IMHO the members at xmpp.org list has the > same relation to the Board as the standards at xmpp.org list has to the > Council). > > A rendered copy is here: > > http://xmpp.org/extensions/tmp/xep-0001-1.20.html > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://stpeter.im/ > > > > -- Bear bear42 at gmail.com (xmpp, email) bear at code-bear.com (xmpp, email) http://code-bear.com/bearlog (weblog) PGP Fingerprint = 9996 719F 973D B11B E111 D770 9331 E822 40B3 CD29 From dbanes at cleartext.com Sun Jan 17 16:45:35 2010 From: dbanes at cleartext.com (David Banes) Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 09:45:35 +1100 Subject: [Members] Cleartext / Combining buddies, Adium style Message-ID: <411A19B1-1BC1-4F91-9C94-169C5D327CEC@cleartext.com> Do we have XEP, or any existing documented proprietary implementations, for combining (not grouping) contacts in a similar way to that which Adium does when dragging and dropping one buddy onto another? regards, David Banes Director & CEO, Cleartext Director & Secretary, Internet Industry Association xmpp: dbanes at cleartext.com | web: www.cleartext.com | Twitter: @cleartext Au Call: +61 2 8001 2600 | USA Call: +1 866 846 6779 | UK Call: +44 1628 675854 - Cleartext is Carbon Minimised - - Cleartext ESM (Enterprise Social Messaging) now available. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Email Filtering by Cleartext a Carbon Minimised company - www.cleartext.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From kevin at kismith.co.uk Sun Jan 17 17:02:44 2010 From: kevin at kismith.co.uk (Kevin Smith) Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 23:02:44 +0000 Subject: [Members] Cleartext / Combining buddies, Adium style In-Reply-To: <411A19B1-1BC1-4F91-9C94-169C5D327CEC@cleartext.com> References: <411A19B1-1BC1-4F91-9C94-169C5D327CEC@cleartext.com> Message-ID: On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 10:45 PM, David Banes wrote: > Do we have XEP, or any existing documented proprietary implementations, for combining (not grouping) contacts in a similar way to that which Adium does when dragging and dropping one buddy onto another? There's http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0209.html - I believe Gajim implements it, I don't know who else does. It's on my todo to update it. Standards is probably the better place to ask, though. /K From nicolas.verite at gmail.com Tue Jan 19 08:03:47 2010 From: nicolas.verite at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_V=E9rit=E9?=) Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:03:47 +0100 Subject: [Members] Fwd: [CommTeam] Next meeting? 2010-01-19? UTC 18:00? In-Reply-To: References: <6e2f977f1001140652j682e1272q762dd08b61e78f4a@mail.gmail.com> <4B4F5721.2000307@stpeter.im> <6e2f977f1001190113r1148ba54tf6b6573a82f6e601@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <6e2f977f1001190603u2aa93436l377ab02c63cc85ad@mail.gmail.com> If you want to join, you're welcome. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Kevin Smith Date: Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 14:52 Subject: Re: [CommTeam] Next meeting? 2010-01-19? UTC 18:00? To: XSF Communication Team On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Nicolas V?rit? wrote: > OK for everybody? I should be there. /K > > On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 18:40, Peter Saint-Andre wrote: >> On 1/14/10 7:52 AM, Nicolas V?rit? wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> Our latest meeting was one month ago, we should do another one soon: >>> what about Tuesday, 19th? >>> I propose UTC 18:00 >>> * Paris 19:00 >>> * New York 13:00 >>> * San Diego 10:00 >>> * Moscow 21:00 >>> >>> What about the agenda? Here is a possible one: >>> * updated website >>> * podcasts >>> * XEP content edits (maybe we could start with MUC?) >>> * tech pages >> >> That all looks good to me! >> >> Peter >> >> -- >> Peter Saint-Andre >> https://stpeter.im/ >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > Nicolas V?rit? (N?co) mailto:nicolas.verite at gmail.com > Jabber ID : xmpp:nyco at jabber.fr > http://linuxfr.org/ - http://fr.wikipedia.org/ - http://www.jabberfr.org/ > http://xmpp.org - http://april.org/ ?- http://qsos.org/ > -- Nicolas V?rit? (N?co) mailto:nicolas.verite at gmail.com Jabber ID : xmpp:nyco at jabber.fr http://linuxfr.org/ - http://fr.wikipedia.org/ - http://www.jabberfr.org/ http://xmpp.org - http://april.org/ - http://qsos.org/ From jack at collecta.com Wed Jan 20 14:20:51 2010 From: jack at collecta.com (Jack Moffitt) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 13:20:51 -0700 Subject: [Members] board meeting minutes for 2010-01-20 Message-ID: <9b58f4551001201220i57c74d7w26b9cf345758df34@mail.gmail.com> # Minutes for the XSF Board Meeting on January 20, 2010 ## Present * Florian Jensen (Board) * Jack Moffitt (Board) * Peter Saint-Andre * Nicolas V?rit? (Board) ## Minutes ### 8th XMPP Summit #### T-Shirts The XMPP t-shirts for the upcoming summit are off the printer. Daniel Miller produced and refined a design with input from the rest of the board, and Will is handling the printing and payment. #### Dinner and Transportation Florian has found a bus to take people to the restaurant for the Sunday night dinner. Peter will call tomorrow to reserve the bus and make payment. #### Banners Peter said Joe Hildebrand will be bringing the XMPP banners for the hack day. #### Hack Day and Developer Challenge Nokia has generously offered to sponsor a mobile XMPP developer challenege. The board discussed and refined the rules and other details of the challenge. Florian will write these up and announce this to the membership shortly. ### Membership Re-applications Jack noted that there has not been any reminder e-mail this voting cycle to those members that need to re-apply. He will poke to the secretary (Alex) about it. ### Next Meeting The next meeting of the board will be January 27, 2010 at 18:00 UTC. There will be an in-person meeting of the board during the 8th XMPP Summit in Brussels. From admin at flosoft.biz Wed Jan 20 17:31:52 2010 From: admin at flosoft.biz (Florian Jensen) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 23:31:52 +0000 Subject: [Members] XMPP Summit: Developers Challenge (with prizes!!) Message-ID: Hey everyone! Less than 3 weeks left until the XMPP Summit #8 comes to Brussels. This year, we've got something new! Nokia has generously offered to sponsor a mobile XMPP developer challenge. What does that mean? Starting from NOW, you can start writing a mobile application for ANY Nokia platform (Maemo / S60v3 / S60v5 ...). The requirements are: - The program must be FREELY available; OpenSource is preferred. - The application needs to be demoed on a Nokia Phone (we have demo devices on location) on the XMPP Summit (Monday). If you are not attending the Summit, find someone who is, and can demo / explain the app, and collect the prize. - Limit of 1 application per attendee. - Substantially new code, as decreed on the day by the judges. (If you have questions, the judges will give guidance, but the final decision will be made on the day) - Judges aren't eligible. - And of course: The application needs to use XMPP in some way. The judges are: Jack Moffitt (XSF Board Chairman); Kevin Smith (XSF Council Chairman); Kristian Luoma (Nokia) So what can I win? We have one Nokia N900 generously sponsored by Nokia which the judges will hand over to the best application. We will also have a second prize, whose winner is chosen by all the attendees (participants excluded). This prize consists of 2 XMPP books (XMPP: The Definitive Guide; Professional XMPP Programming with Javascript and Jquery) and an official XMPP T-Shirt. So, open up those text editors and start coding, and good luck! Greets, Florian Jensen From nicolas.verite at gmail.com Wed Jan 27 03:54:04 2010 From: nicolas.verite at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_V=E9rit=E9?=) Date: Wed, 27 Jan 2010 10:54:04 +0100 Subject: [Members] Clients Message-ID: <6e2f977f1001270154v3518c1ffhb5059080d8535176@mail.gmail.com> Dear clients page maintainer (stpeter?), http://xmpp.org/software/clients.shtml Can we add these missing clients? * Mobile Phone / PDA OneTeam for iPhone http://www.process-one.net/en/solutions/oneteam_iphone/ Agile Messenger http://www.agilemobile.com/ Jabbim for Android http://www.jabbim.com/android/ Yaxim http://slideme.org/application/yaxim * Web Browser Slimster http://slimster.org/ Also Nimbuzz falls under desktop, as well as mobile and web Is there other clients that we don't reference here? -- Nicolas V?rit? (N?co) mailto:nicolas.verite at gmail.com Jabber ID : xmpp:nyco at jabber.fr http://linuxfr.org/ - http://fr.wikipedia.org/ - http://www.jabberfr.org/ http://xmpp.org - http://april.org/ - http://qsos.org/ From nicolas.verite at gmail.com Fri Jan 29 09:41:22 2010 From: nicolas.verite at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Nicolas_V=E9rit=E9?=) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:41:22 +0100 Subject: [Members] XMPP Roundup 13, software edition Message-ID: <6e2f977f1001290741s1ce814f6i144a8ed9237a8f1b@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, Here is the XMPP Roundup 13, dedicated to only new and updated software: http://blog.xmpp.org/index.php/2010/01/xmpp-roundup-13-new-and-updated-software/ Thanks to Will, Waqas, Jack, Guillaume for the help! Please feel free to IM/blog/tweet/dent/forum about it, to show the world the XMPP community is _very_ active, and that XMPP is a killer-protocol ;-) -- Nicolas V?rit? (N?co) mailto:nicolas.verite at gmail.com Jabber ID : xmpp:nyco at jabber.fr http://linuxfr.org/ - http://fr.wikipedia.org/ - http://www.jabberfr.org/ http://xmpp.org - http://april.org/ - http://qsos.org/ From stpeter at stpeter.im Fri Jan 29 14:46:16 2010 From: stpeter at stpeter.im (Peter Saint-Andre) Date: Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:46:16 -0700 Subject: [Members] XMPP Roundup 13, software edition In-Reply-To: <6e2f977f1001290741s1ce814f6i144a8ed9237a8f1b@mail.gmail.com> References: <6e2f977f1001290741s1ce814f6i144a8ed9237a8f1b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4B634918.8090304@stpeter.im> On 1/29/10 8:41 AM, Nicolas V?rit? wrote: > Hi all, > > Here is the XMPP Roundup 13, dedicated to only new and updated software: > http://blog.xmpp.org/index.php/2010/01/xmpp-roundup-13-new-and-updated-software/ > > Thanks to Will, Waqas, Jack, Guillaume for the help! Thanks, guys. 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