[Operators] server reputation

[Brian Cully]

On 22-Apr-2008, at 12:50, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Oh, I like that idea a lot! Validators rock (XHTML, Atom, etc.). We
> could run that at xmpp.net for sure. Once we create it, that is. ;-)

	Particularly if we're serious about known-root TLS for s2s. Doing  
appropriate testing before deployment can be a real pain if you don't  
have someone you can ping in various configuraitons.

> That's a bigger job, and directed more at coders than operators. But
> most definitely worth considering, too.

	s2s is obviously the lowest, ripest, fruit. But as XMPP expands I can  
definitely see uses for "Is my server following XEP-4200?" As you say,  
though, it's a lot more work. Once available, though, you could roll  
it into the XEP process itself. It's always nice to have at least one  
reference implementation to play with.

> By "Route Arbiter" do you mean this?
>
> http://www.radb.net/
>
> It's not clear to me how that would interact with the XMPP network or
> what it would mean to build something similar for the XMPP network, so
> perhaps you could expand on that?

	I think I spoke too hastily last night. After reflecting on my goals  
I've come to the conclusion that it would almost certainly be too  
invasive of privacy. It'd be nice to see how many people are on, or  
number of s2s connections and peers, or aggregate bandwidth, or things  
like that for troubleshooting, diagnosis, and planning at the network  
level. However, I have a hard time seeing how it could be implemented  
without either compromising privacy or being utterly useless due to  
lack of (opt-in) data.

> Yeah, it's always great when someone else does the work. :)

	Thank God for the Internet! I don't know how we farmed out work to  
suckers^Wvolunteers before it.

-bjc