[standards-jig] UPDATED AGAIN: Multi-User Chat, v. 0.4

David Sutton jabber at dsutton.legend.uk.com
Thu Sep 19 17:25:54 CDT 2002


Hi all,


On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 05:16:14PM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Heh, we can make them elements too. :)
>
Elements seem to make more sense, as not all the values are boolean.
How are deactivated features (especially boolean) represented? element
not mentioned?
 
Regards,

  David

> Peter
> 
> --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> Jabber Software Foundation
> http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.html
> 
> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, Dave Smith wrote:
> 
> > Blech. Not so many attribs, please. :)
> > 
> > Diz
> > 
> > On Thursday, Sep 19, 2002, at 12:05 America/Denver, Peter Saint-Andre 
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > So something like this?
> > >
> > > <iq type='get' from='someuser' to='room at service' id='r1'>
> > >   <features xmlns='jabber:gc:user'/>
> > > </iq>
> > >
> > > <iq type='result' from='room at service' to='someuser' id='r1'>
> > >   <features xmlns='jabber:gc:user'
> > >     anonymous='yes'
> > >     invitation-only='no'
> > >     logging='yes'
> > >     moderated='yes'
> > >     password-protected='no'
> > >     persistent='yes'
> > >     public='yes'>
> > > </iq>
> > >
> > > We could do these as child elements or attributes, though for some 
> > > reason
> > > I feel that attributes make more sense for toggling.
> > >
> > > I still would prefer agents/browse/disco or their successor....
> > >
> > > Peter
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Saint-Andre
> > > Jabber Software Foundation
> > > http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.html
> > >
> > > On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, David Sutton wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, as a stop gap, how about allowing an iq get of the current
> > >> settings? This would at least allow people to find out, and could also
> > >> be tied into a chatbot plugin. You could even have chatbot announce to
> > >> you in a private chat that this is a moderated room and you don't have
> > >> the ability to talk.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >>   David
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, Sep 19, 2002 at 12:05:50PM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > >>> I think that this information would be handled by agents, browse, 
> > >>> disco,
> > >>> or the future protocol that the Council cooks up to replace that 
> > >>> witches'
> > >>> brew. (Pun intended.)
> > >>>
> > >>> I'll add this as an open issue and perhaps we can add this 
> > >>> information
> > >>> once the new service discovery spec or specs are finalized.
> > >>>
> > >>> Peter
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Peter Saint-Andre
> > >>> Jabber Software Foundation
> > >>> http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.html
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, 19 Sep 2002, David Sutton wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Hi again,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   Talking to aleksey and ressu in the jdev room brought up another
> > >>>>   issue:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   How do you find out what the settings of a room are? is it 
> > >>>> moderated,
> > >>>>   etc (note, i'm going to want to add topic locking at some point 
> > >>>> ;) )
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   Ok, this is entering the realms of disco, but might not a presence
> > >>>>   packet from the room with the settings encoded work? Say when a 
> > >>>> user
> > >>>>   first connects and whenever a change is made?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   Which reminds me - is browse being mentioned? If so (or if not) 
> > >>>> how is
> > >>>>   it going to be handled? My favourite so far is to allow rooms to 
> > >>>> have
> > >>>>   it locked to admin users only.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>   David
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Wed, Sep 18, 2002 at 11:29:52PM -0500, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > >>>>> I have just released version 0.4 of the multi-user chat JEP. This 
> > >>>>> contains
> > >>>>> some major changes, including:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 1. Removed that /kick and /ban junk, what a hack!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 2. Added protocol for including participant privileges (admin and 
> > >>>>> voice)
> > >>>>> in presence updates.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 3. Added use cases for granting/revoking voice and 
> > >>>>> approving/denying
> > >>>>> messages held for approval in moderated rooms.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> 4. A few other niceties.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I think this is now getting to be fairly complete and even 
> > >>>>> (*gasp*) worth
> > >>>>> considering in a serious manner. I will probably release a 0.4.1 
> > >>>>> version
> > >>>>> by about 18:00 UTC tomorrow in order to address a few minor 
> > >>>>> points, so
> > >>>>> keep those cards and letters coming! :)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0045.html
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Peter
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Peter Saint-Andre
> > >>>>> Jabber Software Foundation
> > >>>>> http://www.jabber.org/people/stpeter.html
> > >>>>>
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> > >>>> -- 
> > >>>> David Sutton
> > >>>> Email: dsutton at legend.co.uk
> > >>>> Jabber: peregrine at legend.net.uk
> > >>>>
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> > >> David Sutton
> > >> Email: dsutton at legend.co.uk
> > >> Jabber: peregrine at legend.net.uk
> > >>
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