[Standards-JIG] Re: VOIP proposal for your messenger

Euseval at aol.com Euseval at aol.com
Wed Oct 20 09:15:59 CDT 2004


>Subject: VOIP proposal for your messenger
>Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2004 10:09:03 -0400
>To: jdev at jabber.org, standards-jig at jabber.org,
>
>Hi,
>
>I want to discuss: to add to jabber clients and jabber servers a voice over IP protocol (VOIP). If you know a person which works on this or another proper mailinglist to discuss this, please forward the message to the right jabber coders.
>
>VOIP is very popular at the moment. Skype from Kazaa is much as sucessful like Kazaa.
>There are as well for DSL subscribers modems very popular to recieve Internet-Phone calls while the Computer is shut down.
>You get the Modems from Efficient.com (IAB 7010) for SDSL and Fritz Phone Box for ADSl users (http://www.freenet.de/freenetiphone/index.html)
>
>We need buddylists in Jabber, which allow not only to write text to friends, but to make a phonecall as well.
>
>Below you find some links to free and open source VOIP-programms and server-tools, you could use to integrate them into jabber clients and servers, as well some java and serverless VOIP like Skype p2p can be found.
>
>If this is done, there is a question about the social use of this.
>In Germany you get a DSL line only with a Phoneline bundeled. This means DSL users need no VOIP, because they have already a phoneline, they so have 4 line.
>Now a political discussion has started to "un-bundle" it. This means you get a DSL line withot a phone line, you then could use VOIP and do not need the Phoneline anymore. The German Telekom - a big european player - then reacted to this strategic discussion and joined again t-online, the dsl company of the telekom; and merged it with the telekom. Millions of wallstreet papers have to reassigend.
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>This is the economic side. On the political side we get a law, that all communication is ever saved for police actions against terrorism, but this is not only referred to phonecalls, as well each internetphonecall and each DSL connection to any Ip adress is THEN in the context of this law. They do not know what this mean. Every habit of the user is saved forever.
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>So, jabber needs quick development, we need not only a VOIP in Jabber, we need as well an encrypted way to make phonecalles over IP, so that not every ISP can make a copy of each call.
>
>If you know WASTE, the messenger from nullsoft at sf.net, this shows how much a private messaging is needed.
>There is as well a VOIP Sniffer out:
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/jvoip-sip/
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>So the request is not only to built in VOIP with Jabber, but to make WASTE AS AN INSTANT MESSENGER as well hybrid with JABBER, TRILLIAN, GAIM.
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>There is already a proto type. VOIP plus GAIM:
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>http://www.phonegaim.com/
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>Source:
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>http://software.lindows.com/emptypool//lindowsos/pool/main/p/phonegaim/phonegaim_0.79-1.0.0.45.lindows0.46.dsc
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>http://software.lindows.com/emptypool//lindowsos/pool/main/p/phonegaim/phonegaim_0.79-1.0.0.45.lindows0.46.tar.gz
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>I don´t know, why the official GAIM developers do not include it.
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>So WASTE and JABBER should be able to integrate VOIP and to make an encrypted VOIP.
>
>So there are 4 goals or claims to develop Jabber.
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>(WASTE as an non-ip-broadcasting Messenger needs for dnamic ip adresses a server to search WASTE-Keys for actual IP-adresses. This means Jabber servers could easily do this job as well, so some server coders should look closer to WASTE).
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>The messenger market has developed very quick. There has to be some improvement in the Jabber Software to have VOIP and encryption as well on jabber.
>And we need a WASTE transport protocol.
>
>Remeber that nothig was said about netmeeting to have pircture-phonecalles integrated next to text-messages.
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>Jabber as ony only Text-tool is like DOS for PC. We live in the age of Windows XP, sow e need Voice and Picture in an encrypted way as well for messengers.
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>Below are some links, can send some comments on them and to the option to join an idea of these into your projet?
>
>Thanks
>
>http://www.phonegaim.com/
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/waste/
>http://www.buzzfon.com/features.htm
>http://librenix.com/?inode=2642
>http://www.nwfusion.com/news/2002/1216infopensourcesip.html
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_Initiation_Protocol
>http://www.vovida.org/applications/downloads/vocal/
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/ihu/
>http://sourceforge.net/projects/ksnvoip/
>http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-Kphone
>http://www.voip-info.org/wiki-VoIP+Phones
>http://www.linphone.org/?lang=us&rubrique=1
>http://www.jetiants.tk
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skype
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>Free VoIP
>Some open source projects for Linux-based IP telephony servers.
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>Bayonne
>A Linux-based telecommunications application server of the GNU project for developing telephony applications such as voice mail and IVR systems.
>http://bayonne.sourceforge.net/
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>SIP-H.323 Signaling Gateway
>Developed at Columbia University, the gateway maps SIP and H.323 addresses to each other, letting devices supporting these protocols work on the same network.  
>http://www.cs.columbia.edu/%7Ekns10/research/gw/
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>OpenH323 Project
>An open source project that has developed a variety of H.323-based telephony applications for Linux, such as a H.323/public switched telephone network gateway, H.323 softphone and a conferencing server.  
>http://www.openh323.org/
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>Vovida
>An open source effort responsible for VOCAL, a Linux-based telephony server that can provide H.323, MGCP and SIP protocol mapping, and a SIP proxy and conferencing server. Also runs on Windows, Solaris and FreeBSD servers.  
>http://www.vovida.org/
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