[Standards-JIG] VoIP Jabber

[Jacek Konieczny]

On Wed, Feb 09, 2005 at 03:10:47PM +0100, Heiner Wolf wrote:
> This is the problem I do not want to discuss, research, nor solve in
> the Jabber context. Jabber sohuld only convey addresses and leave the
> firewall traversal to the VoIP tools.

People want VoIP in Jabber. Requireing them to install other software 
(which usually also do some IM) to do that is IMHO not a good solution. 
There are stadards (RTP, RTCP, SDP, STUN, UPnP), libraries
(implementations of those) or even some basic tools (RTP/RTCP clients)
that can be reused, but IMHO XMPP should be used for signalling and JIDs
should be the only addresses used for calls between Jabber users.
Otherwise they will have to install and configure two separate
applications, somtimes entering the same network parameters -- that
doesn't feel like VoIP in Jabber for me. For the best user experience
that would require Jabber clients to include whole SIP/H323/anything
implementation, which seems like an overkill.

Exchanging callto: URLs for external VoIP application is one thing
(which can be usefull), but VoIP support for XMPP is something different
and still important.

Greets,
	Jacek

P.S. Why is that ugly top-posting-with-uncut-citations so common on this
list? This makes the postings long and hard to follow and the Jabber
lists inconvenient for reading.