[Standards] publish+configure again
Peter Saint-Andre
stpeter at jabber.org
Tue Apr 3 12:31:56 CDT 2007
Tomasz Sterna wrote:
> Dnia 02-04-2007, pon o godzinie 15:24 +0100, Pedro Melo napisał(a):
>> Of course. The thing is, PEP or PubSub already have a lot of uses
>> cases covered. That's why it seems the best approach to use pep to do
>> private storage.
>
> I always advocate "use proper tools for proper things" approach.
> That's why I do not feel well looking at the proposal of making a
> distributed storage system of PEP/PubSub.
>
> Let's store things in a storage system and use eventing system to
> propagate events.
>
> I do not liked the persistent nodes idea from the very beginning. PubSub
> was distributing events in <message/>s storable in offline storage for
> later retrieval. There was no need for persistence in PubSub.
We first discussed this a long long time ago, when there was first
interest in building pubsub on XMPP back in 2002, see here:
http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0021.html
http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0024.html
http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0028.html [retracted]
http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0036.html
Etc.
We discussed it IRL in a long meeting at "JabberConf" in Munich that
year. We decided that different people had different requirements, some
people wanted persistence, other people wanted pure eventing, etc. We
agreed to disagree, made persistence optional, and reached consensus. So
I think it's a bit late to say "no persistence ever in pubsub".
Peter
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Peter Saint-Andre
XMPP Standards Foundation
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