[Standards] Simple Jingle example(s) and spec(s) wanted

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Matt Tucker wrote:
> Peter,
> 
>> I agree that ICE is complex, but so is the problem of NAT 
>> traversal. My discussions with various people in the VoIP and 
>> media space indicate that we really can't avoid using ICE to 
>> get things done. That's probably why projects such as 
>> Telepathy and FreeSWITCH are building their own
>> (open-source) ICE libraries.
> 
> We'll support most of ICE in Wildfire, Spark, and Smack -- at least
> enough to get through firewalls whenever possible. We haven't researched
> implementing the TURN proxy server stuff yet, so we're undecided on
> that.
> 
> However, a lot of clients probably won't implement even that amount of
> ICE at first. I do agree that eventually we all need to get there.
> However, the lack of good support even for STUN in a lot of SIP
> environments shows how slowly this can go.

Sad but true. So I think you're right that we need to develop something 
in between full ICE + TURN + STUN and nothing. That may well be a 
relatively simple mediated TCP|UDP bytestream. Which sounds an awful lot 
like XEP-0065, eh?

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
XMPP Standards Foundation
http://www.xmpp.org/xsf/people/stpeter.shtml

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