[Standards] Any replacement for <offline> notification from XEP-0022?

Justin Karneges justin-keyword-jabber.093179 at affinix.com
Thu Jul 3 20:25:12 UTC 2008


On Thursday 03 July 2008 11:07:41 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> Olivier Goffart wrote:
> > Le vendredi 27 juin 2008, Michal 'vorner' Vaner a écrit :
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 09:50:59PM +0400, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote:
> >>> I see that XEP-0085 ("Chat State Notifications") which can be thought
> >>> as being a "spiritual successor" to the deprecated XEP-0022 ("Message
> >>> Events") lacks support for the "message is stored in the server's
> >>> offline storage" notification.
> >>
> >> Well, if it wasn't stored, you get an error. And if the server told you
> >> it did store it, you would know the user is not invisible, does not have
> >> you in his ignore list or so. It is not something people should want you
> >> to know.
> >>
> >> So, if you do not get an error, you can count on the message being
> >> delivered (now or later).
> >>
> >> (If it is different in real life, then it is problem of implementation
> >> and not of protocol).
> >>
> >> Did it help?
> >
> > If there is a network problem you might get nothing back.
>
> Won't XEP-0198 solve this (when it's done and implemented and deployed)?

Yes, with XEP-0198, it should be possible to detect for a failed delivery, and 
to ensure reliable transmission of the bounce message.

-Justin



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