[Standards] Any replacement for <offline> notification from XEP-0022?

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Fri Jul 4 04:58:15 UTC 2008

Justin Karneges wrote:
> On Thursday 03 July 2008 11:07:41 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Olivier Goffart wrote:
>>> Le vendredi 27 juin 2008, Michal 'vorner' Vaner a écrit :
>>>> Hello
>>>> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 09:50:59PM +0400, Konstantin Khomoutov wrote:
>>>>> I see that XEP-0085 ("Chat State Notifications") which can be thought
>>>>> as being a "spiritual successor" to the deprecated XEP-0022 ("Message
>>>>> Events") lacks support for the "message is stored in the server's
>>>>> offline storage" notification.
>>>> Well, if it wasn't stored, you get an error. And if the server told you
>>>> it did store it, you would know the user is not invisible, does not have
>>>> you in his ignore list or so. It is not something people should want you
>>>> to know.
>>>> So, if you do not get an error, you can count on the message being
>>>> delivered (now or later).
>>>> (If it is different in real life, then it is problem of implementation
>>>> and not of protocol).
>>>> Did it help?
>>> If there is a network problem you might get nothing back.
>> Won't XEP-0198 solve this (when it's done and implemented and deployed)?
> Yes, with XEP-0198, it should be possible to detect for a failed delivery, and 
> to ensure reliable transmission of the bounce message.

I really will get to work on that spec again soon. :)


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