[webteam] welcome

[Florian Jensen]

To promote XMPP, we have the XSF (xmpp.org / xmpp.net). Jabber.org should
be a level lower than that. Everything that is about standards, etc. should
be done on the XMPP sites, not specifically on Jabber.org.

Developpers have more likely heard about XMPP. End Users about Jabber. So
let's keep it that way.

FJ

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 00:13:52 +0200, "Sander Devrieze"
<s.devrieze at pandora.be> wrote:
> 2007/7/9, Florian Jensen <admin at flosoft.biz>:
> <snip>
>> About Leader: I think there should be a sort of leader, i.e. someone who
>> keeps track of the direction where we're heading. But this should only
> be
>> decided later on, once the project gets started.
> 
> People can create teams and people can join them. No need for leaders,
> all can be very organic and flexible.
> 
>> About the EndUsers: End Users, or DAU's, as we call them in german,
> don't
>> want to browse X-thousand sites, but want to get the information
> directly.
> 
> Normal end users don't want to change software: they are inert and
> just use what is installed or everyone uses. A Jabber end user site
> will not change this. Persuading other projects that don't support
> Jabber yet is a much easier to achieve goal which will increase
> network effects for Jabber technologies. For example, if we can
> convince the Ubuntu project to integrate Jabber in their project,
> people will need a Jabber account for these features. Because they can
> do something useful with it, it is more likely they will switch to
> Jabber.
> 
>> This is why the idea of centralizing documentation and setting up the
>> community directly on Jabber.org is better. Take a look at Ubuntu. There
> is
>> only one big Forum, Ubuntuforums.org. Everyone goes there, because
> everyone
>> is there. Here at Jabber, you have to use Google to find replies to your
>> problem, as they are spread all over the web.
> 
> Jabber is no product, Jabber is a protocol community. Creating a
> website for end users on jabber.org will confuse people even more
> about this I'm afraid. Ubuntu is a specific project. Have you ever
> heard of some website to promote *all* Linux distributions? Yes, I
> did, but they are not targeted at end users. They are targeted at
> collaboration between the different Linux distributions. I would like
> the website we are creating to be something like the Linux Foundation.
> Please read the About page, it is very similar to what I am proposing
> here: http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/About Also the workgroups
> part on that website might be something useful to do:
> http://www.linux-foundation.org/en/Workgroups
> 
> --
> Mvg, Sander Devrieze.
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