[webteam] welcome

[Sander Devrieze]

2007/7/10, Florian Jensen <admin at flosoft.biz>:
> Hey,
>
> the umbrella brand exists! It is Jabber! I use Jabber!

I'm referring to the discussion from some time ago on jdev (or was it
jadmin?). I'm also reffering to these facts:
* Pidgin introduced a duplicate account type called "Google Talk"
* Pidgin renamed "Jabber" to "XMPP"
* Google Talk don't uses the current Jabber logo
* Google Talk don't uses Jabber
* some people want to call it "Talk"
* some Jabber users do not know what to say when someone ask their
MSN/AIM/Yahoo ID, instead they say they use Google Talk
* a lot projects put "Jabber/XMPP" on their website which is IMO too
confusing, but there currently is no other way because the XSF did not
used its authority to say how it should be called
* other projects only say they use an open standard protocol without
clearly saying it is Jabber because they don't want to confuse end
users with something like "Jabber/XMPP, Google Talk compatible", or
they don't say this on their front page
* projects do not use an umbrella logo

So, I want the XSF to make a *clear* statement about how it should be
called and in which it asks current projects and vendors using Jabber
to use this name and not something else. It also should decide on a
logo that should be used by all projects and vendors. I don't say it
should be "Jabber", "XMPP", "Talk", or something else. I just would
like to see the XSF to make a clear statement before the protocol
community dies. That's why it should be a top priority IMO. Remember
Google already has several unstandard extensions to XMPP...even Jive
Software has some unstandard protocols in use with which they never
went to the XSF to transform them in a XEP. Friction is not good :-(

> The technology is called XMPP. That is why Jabber.org should be for end
> users, with documentation and helping them to start.
>
> XMPP.org

-->protocol people

>/ .net should be the place for developpers.

-->this is for the server certificates

> Or like PSA said: dev.jabber.org is still free ;)

The Coccinella and ejabberd projects also still have a lot work to do :-)

-- 
Mvg, Sander Devrieze.