[webteam] welcome

[Florian Jensen]

Hi,

Jabber.org is perfect for use as a Umbrella Name. Here you have the logo's
for your site: http://jabberpowered.org/
People have a MSN ID and a JID. Thats good isn't it?

Florian Jensen

On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 20:10:27 +0200, "Sander Devrieze"
<s.devrieze at pandora.be> wrote:
> 2007/7/10, Florian Jensen <admin at flosoft.biz>:
>> Hey,
>>
>> the umbrella brand exists! It is Jabber! I use Jabber!
> 
> I'm referring to the discussion from some time ago on jdev (or was it
> jadmin?). I'm also reffering to these facts:
> * Pidgin introduced a duplicate account type called "Google Talk"
> * Pidgin renamed "Jabber" to "XMPP"
> * Google Talk don't uses the current Jabber logo
> * Google Talk don't uses Jabber
> * some people want to call it "Talk"
> * some Jabber users do not know what to say when someone ask their
> MSN/AIM/Yahoo ID, instead they say they use Google Talk
> * a lot projects put "Jabber/XMPP" on their website which is IMO too
> confusing, but there currently is no other way because the XSF did not
> used its authority to say how it should be called
> * other projects only say they use an open standard protocol without
> clearly saying it is Jabber because they don't want to confuse end
> users with something like "Jabber/XMPP, Google Talk compatible", or
> they don't say this on their front page
> * projects do not use an umbrella logo
> 
> So, I want the XSF to make a *clear* statement about how it should be
> called and in which it asks current projects and vendors using Jabber
> to use this name and not something else. It also should decide on a
> logo that should be used by all projects and vendors. I don't say it
> should be "Jabber", "XMPP", "Talk", or something else. I just would
> like to see the XSF to make a clear statement before the protocol
> community dies. That's why it should be a top priority IMO. Remember
> Google already has several unstandard extensions to XMPP...even Jive
> Software has some unstandard protocols in use with which they never
> went to the XSF to transform them in a XEP. Friction is not good :-(
> 
>> The technology is called XMPP. That is why Jabber.org should be for end
>> users, with documentation and helping them to start.
>>
>> XMPP.org
> 
> -->protocol people
> 
>>/ .net should be the place for developpers.
> 
> -->this is for the server certificates
> 
>> Or like PSA said: dev.jabber.org is still free ;)
> 
> The Coccinella and ejabberd projects also still have a lot work to do :-)
> 
> --
> Mvg, Sander Devrieze.
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