[webteam] [Fwd: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about stability, services and money.]

[Peter Saint-Andre]

FYI, I think it would be good to think about policies for including a
server on the IM services list...

In particular I would prefer that all such services support SSL with a
non-self-signed certificate (does not have to be obtained from the XMPP
ICA via xmpp.net) so that we can start to build a higher-trust network.

Thoughts?

/psa

-------- Original Message --------
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:55:19 -0700
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>
To: Jabber end-user discussion list <juser at jabber.org>
Subject: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about stability, services
and money.

Peter Flindt wrote:
> Hello,
> on every 2-4 Server website or directly from the server I found
> announcement "Please support us. PayPal Link" or something similiar.
> I know server hosting, internet connections,... cost a lot of money,
> and I think more users should support the servers.
> 
> BUT on the other site, I am a noob user, find in some curio list a
> server with interested service and I choose this one as my login
> server.
> The normally way for an user is now that he notice after some weeks,
> that the login server have to many downtimes, services not work or some
> other things are wrong with this server and they choose another one.
> I don't know how many users give it up with jabber, after they have
> choose the 4th or 5th login server.
> 
> The maint point in this grouse here is, that at the one side a lot of
> servers have financial problems but on the other side the server list
> on www.jabber.org contains more than 100 servers and a lot of them are
> not very stable or/and offers only a few servers.

That list will soon become much smaller:

http://stage.jabber.org/im-services

> My suggestion:
> Give it up with a completely decentral network, no one need tons of
> servers which not work properly.
> Lay the focus on fewer but more functional servers. Few Servers collect
> money=>more money for each server=>more functional servers.

As a first step I think we need to "vet" the servers that are listed at
jabber.org so that only stable, long-lived, reliable servers are shown
there.

Peter

-- 
Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/

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