[webteam] [Fwd: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about stability, services and money.]

[Robert Martinez]

Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> FYI, I think it would be good to think about policies for including a
> server on the IM services list...
>
> In particular I would prefer that all such services support SSL with a
> non-self-signed certificate (does not have to be obtained from the XMPP
> ICA via xmpp.net) so that we can start to build a higher-trust network.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> /psa
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:55:19 -0700
> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>
> To: Jabber end-user discussion list <juser at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about stability, services
> and money.
>
> Peter Flindt wrote:
>   
>> Hello,
>> on every 2-4 Server website or directly from the server I found
>> announcement "Please support us. PayPal Link" or something similiar.
>> I know server hosting, internet connections,... cost a lot of money,
>> and I think more users should support the servers.
>>
>> BUT on the other site, I am a noob user, find in some curio list a
>> server with interested service and I choose this one as my login
>> server.
>> The normally way for an user is now that he notice after some weeks,
>> that the login server have to many downtimes, services not work or some
>> other things are wrong with this server and they choose another one.
>> I don't know how many users give it up with jabber, after they have
>> choose the 4th or 5th login server.
>>
>> The maint point in this grouse here is, that at the one side a lot of
>> servers have financial problems but on the other side the server list
>> on www.jabber.org contains more than 100 servers and a lot of them are
>> not very stable or/and offers only a few servers.
>>     
>
> That list will soon become much smaller:
>
> http://stage.jabber.org/im-services
>
>   
>> My suggestion:
>> Give it up with a completely decentral network, no one need tons of
>> servers which not work properly.
>> Lay the focus on fewer but more functional servers. Few Servers collect
>> money=>more money for each server=>more functional servers.
>>     
>
> As a first step I think we need to "vet" the servers that are listed at
> jabber.org so that only stable, long-lived, reliable servers are shown
> there.
>
> Peter
>
>   
+1 we should feel responsible for selection of servers we promote.