[webteam] [Fwd: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about stability, services and money.]

[Alexander Gnauck]

+1

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: webteam-bounces at jabber.org [mailto:webteam-bounces at jabber.org] Im
> Auftrag von Peter Saint-Andre
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. November 2007 22:34
> An: webteam at jabber.org
> Betreff: [webteam] [Fwd: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about
> stability, services and money.]
> 
> FYI, I think it would be good to think about policies for including a
> server on the IM services list...
> 
> In particular I would prefer that all such services support SSL with a
> non-self-signed certificate (does not have to be obtained from the XMPP
> ICA via xmpp.net) so that we can start to build a higher-trust network.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> /psa
> 
> -------- Original Message --------
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:55:19 -0700
> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>
> To: Jabber end-user discussion list <juser at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about stability, services
> and money.
> 
> Peter Flindt wrote:
> > Hello,
> > on every 2-4 Server website or directly from the server I found
> > announcement "Please support us. PayPal Link" or something similiar.
> > I know server hosting, internet connections,... cost a lot of money,
> > and I think more users should support the servers.
> >
> > BUT on the other site, I am a noob user, find in some curio list a
> > server with interested service and I choose this one as my login
> > server.
> > The normally way for an user is now that he notice after some weeks,
> > that the login server have to many downtimes, services not work or
> some
> > other things are wrong with this server and they choose another one.
> > I don't know how many users give it up with jabber, after they have
> > choose the 4th or 5th login server.
> >
> > The maint point in this grouse here is, that at the one side a lot of
> > servers have financial problems but on the other side the server list
> > on www.jabber.org contains more than 100 servers and a lot of them
> are
> > not very stable or/and offers only a few servers.
> 
> That list will soon become much smaller:
> 
> http://stage.jabber.org/im-services
> 
> > My suggestion:
> > Give it up with a completely decentral network, no one need tons of
> > servers which not work properly.
> > Lay the focus on fewer but more functional servers. Few Servers
> collect
> > money=>more money for each server=>more functional servers.
> 
> As a first step I think we need to "vet" the servers that are listed at
> jabber.org so that only stable, long-lived, reliable servers are shown
> there.
> 
> Peter
> 
> --
> Peter Saint-Andre
> https://stpeter.im/

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