[webteam] [Fwd: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about stability, services and money.]

[Artur Hefczyc]

Hello,

I have to partially agree.
Partially because I think that this is not wrong to have a long list
of Jabber servers offering free service and free IM account.
Even if some of them are not very stable or some of them offer
a limited number of features.

Even those servers can have something very specific and interesting
to offer.

On the other side users should be able to easily get some basic
information about stability and functionality of the service.
I think a very good start is something like existing jabbermonitor:
http://jabbermonitor.ayena.de/index.php?q=jabbermonitor&sort=desc&order=Availability+%28%25%29

Such list could be extended with some more information but
even now it gives basic information to the end user which
Jabber services are worth trying.

Artur

On Tuesday 27 November 2007 21:33:53 Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> FYI, I think it would be good to think about policies for including a
> server on the IM services list...
>
> In particular I would prefer that all such services support SSL with a
> non-self-signed certificate (does not have to be obtained from the XMPP
> ICA via xmpp.net) so that we can start to build a higher-trust network.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> /psa
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:55:19 -0700
> From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>
> To: Jabber end-user discussion list <juser at jabber.org>
> Subject: Re: [Juser] Jabber server philosophy about stability, services
> and money.
>
> Peter Flindt wrote:
> > Hello,
> > on every 2-4 Server website or directly from the server I found
> > announcement "Please support us. PayPal Link" or something similiar.
> > I know server hosting, internet connections,... cost a lot of money,
> > and I think more users should support the servers.
> >
> > BUT on the other site, I am a noob user, find in some curio list a
> > server with interested service and I choose this one as my login
> > server.
> > The normally way for an user is now that he notice after some weeks,
> > that the login server have to many downtimes, services not work or some
> > other things are wrong with this server and they choose another one.
> > I don't know how many users give it up with jabber, after they have
> > choose the 4th or 5th login server.
> >
> > The maint point in this grouse here is, that at the one side a lot of
> > servers have financial problems but on the other side the server list
> > on www.jabber.org contains more than 100 servers and a lot of them are
> > not very stable or/and offers only a few servers.
>
> That list will soon become much smaller:
>
> http://stage.jabber.org/im-services
>
> > My suggestion:
> > Give it up with a completely decentral network, no one need tons of
> > servers which not work properly.
> > Lay the focus on fewer but more functional servers. Few Servers collect
> > money=>more money for each server=>more functional servers.
>
> As a first step I think we need to "vet" the servers that are listed at
> jabber.org so that only stable, long-lived, reliable servers are shown
> there.
>
> Peter



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