[webteam] progress

[Peter Saint-Andre]

Thanks for the feedback Adam, I'll work this in.

Peter

Adam Nemeth wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> First I'm awfully sorry that I couldn't be there at tuesday... there
> was a sudden important meeting, and I wasn't able to get into my
> computer.
> 
> On 9/13/07, Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im> wrote:
>> 2. Created some content pages, for instance:
>>
>> http://stage.jabber.org/what-is-jabber
>>
> 
> Well, I personally think that this page needs some more work :/ I
> don't have heatmap analysis of course - btw: could we insert a code
> for such on current jabber.org? - but for me the answer isn't
> "Download a client" for "what is jabber?", even if I know that there's
> some text "up there". It just feels to me: "they want me to download
> something again... errgh..must be a virus". Jabber works on web too
> anyway.
> 
> But a bulletlist is a good solution, just not this way I feel.
> 
> (UPPERCASE is bold, I'm sorry if it's disturbing, I just want to show
> that it should stand out)
> 
> "Jabber is an
>   * INSTANT MESSAGING SOLUTION, which is
>   * OPEN for everyone,
>   * SECUREd by industry leading standards,
>   * SPAM-FREE as it can be, and
>   * DECENTRALIZED LIKE E-MAIL, so you can host one for your company.
> 
> With Jabber you can:
> 
>   * Use a CLIENT OF YOUR CHOICE on _desktop_, _web_, _mobile_ - there
> are more than 100 of them!
>   * CHAT, TALK, GET TO KNOW other jabber users, and even
>   * STAY IN TOUCH with your contacts who still using MSN,
> Yahoo......... (continue)
>   * CREATE YOUR OWN _corporate_, _organizational_, _community_  IM
> NETWORK with free softwares, or different commercial vendors, and run
> your own service
>   * DEVELOP your own _IM-based_ and _collaborative_ applications by
> using free code libraries for more than 15 platforms (including Java,
> .NET, Windows/UNIX/Mac)
> 
> For more detailed information read... or go to the _forums_."
> 
> At the last two points, the links would go to case studies.
> 
> Java and .NET are emphasized because currently they're the two leading
> enterprise platforms, and business workflow integration with IM makes
> sense.
> 
> 
>> http://stage.jabber.org/technology-overview
>>
> 
> First: emphasize(bold), and use less text - I feel it's too vague for
> web, but again we would have to get measures - other IM networks,
> popular(!) free softwares (you'd never know how a good homepage would
> make a foss project stand out!)
> 
> ("vagueity" of text is usually measured by word count, wc, not
> characters nor lines - just paste homepages to a cat | wc -w  for a
> terminal)
> 
> Second: Although it's a fairly good marketing text, it does not give
> me a technology overview. Like: I do not get that obvious information
> on how this technology works ("like e-mail"), there's no architectural
> diagram (I'll try to draw one), etc.
> 
>> http://stage.jabber.org/technology-detail
>>
> 
> I feel it's like a "download-in-pdf" style documentation - it would
> need again emphasizing, and diagrams - but it couldn't be used for
> give an overview!
> 
>> And more:
>>
>> http://stage.jabber.org/quickstart
>>
> 
> I wouldn't emphasize download this much - I know mac users don't fear
> virus that much, nor compiling and binary incompatibility, not to
> mention corporate policies (usually downloading exe is forbidden,
> installing (registry) is forbidden) in a corporate environment!), but
> these ARE serious issues on other platforms - exactly that's why
> there's an uptide for web-applications and webservices.
> 
> I feel a wizard would fit better, or we should emphasize open networks
> or something like that - honestly I feel I wouldn't install a software
> just by curiosity after this tutorial :(
> 
>> http://stage.jabber.org/why-use-jabber
>>
> 
> I feel this *should* be different for every audience!
> 
> 
> By The Way: it was mentioned tuesday that we discourage the word
> "end-users" as an explicit audience. I thought we could rename them
> silently to "everyone", while still thinking of them as the end users
> audience. What do you think?
> 
> (Or we could use "begginers", if it fits better)
> 
> Also it's a problem to create an *emphasized* audience-based
> navigation. I came up with using that upper white line, and use color
> repetition (like have a blue jabber logo for organizations, etc?).
> I'll attach a mockup, and appreciate your feedback.
> 
>> Feedback is welcome. :)
> 
> It's mine... If it was a bit negative, I wasn't mean to: good
> solutions shouldn't be changed, but worse ones should, that's why I'd
> concentrate on those.
> 
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