[webteam] We are popular

[Sander Devrieze]

2008/4/27 Adam Nemeth <aadaam at gmail.com>:
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> > > Having a blinking text is a non-solution: I believe we have to bind the
> > > jabber.org website login into the jabber.org IDs.
> > >
> >
> > Maybe, but is this practical for jabber.org's large number of users?
>
> People think that registration is done over web. It works for ICQ, it works
> for MSN, it works for AIM, and it works for Yahoo!. If it does not work for
> jabber, it's a FAULT, as you can see. I hope it's obvious and clear, because
> people DO register on the site, without doing anything else. Texts won't
> help this.

This is a misassumption. The most popular closed system of Poland
(Gadu-Gadu) also does not allow registration over the web and for
millions of users this is obvious and clear. If people think they have
to register an XMPP account on a website that is because the XMPP
client they are trying does not have a first-run wizard to set up an
account. Try to find people who have problems with registration with
recent versions of Coccinella and Psi...

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> Right now, if I would like to spam the whole jabber world, I could do it,
> and one of the reasons why, is just the simple fact,that IBR exists.

If a spammer thinks he easily can spam XMPP accounts using In-Band
Registration, he didn't do his homework well. For instance, there are
server limits (number of messages, bandwith usage, etc) and there are
no CC/BCC headers in XMPP.

> Trying to save the jabber.org forums from spamming but exposing the jabber
> network for the same, well, it does not seem to me a viable argument.

It's not the same: the forum has other measures to prevent spam than
the XMPP server.

Note: the Drupal CAPTCHA module allows the administrator to also set a
CAPTCHAs on posting comments. He also can define if this CAPTCHA
should be entered every time the user wants to post a comment or only
for the first time. So in this way an integration of the XMPP server
accounts with the website will not help spammers. That said, I do not
think it is worth the effort to actually integrate XMPP server and
website; it is much better to dedicate resources on tasks that are
less hard and more beneficial. For example, adding all clients to
www.jabber.org/clients (the current list even does not contain clients
like Pidgin and Digsby!).

-- 
Mvg, Sander Devrieze.