[webteam] radical simplicity

[Robert Martinez]

Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> I'm currently reading a book entitled "Radical Simplicity", which
> happens to be written by one of my cousins:
>
> http://isbn.nu/0865714738
>
> As we are discovering, Drupal is not radical simplicity. Earlier today
> we had an impromptu chat about that in the webteam room:
>
> http://logs.jabber.org/webteam@conference.jabber.org/2008-05-12.html
>
> In particular, we talked about the possibility of scrapping Drupal
> altogether and simply using XHTML and server-side includes, or at most
> XML+XSLT, to generate the jabber.org website. This is what we do for the
> xmpp.org site and we never have a problem there. Is the jabber.org
> really all *that* different or special that it requires a full CMS?
>
> Your thoughts are welcome. :)
>
> Peter
>
>   
Drupal has to stay.
If we want to harvest extra effort from many people and build an active 
community we need to provide fitting tools.
Everything else than a community CMS is not the right choice for that.

Yes, our experience with drupal may have been bad.
But as Walkah mentions: we need to work properly with drupal.
We didn't do that.
I'm not really a coder and relatively new to drupal with few time, 
Hedgemage has even less time, and MattJ does not really think that 
Drupal is a benefit at all :P

So I think we need more enthusiastic manpower behind the project, 
instead of a solution that is realistic but only provides us with a 
rather "dead" page.
 
But we shouldn't expect Drupal to solve everything by itself in version 6.
We just have to "iterate iterate iterate" - Hopefully simultaneously 
with the jump from 5 to 6.