[webteam] radical simplicity

[Robert Martinez]

Robert Martinez wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> I'm currently reading a book entitled "Radical Simplicity", which
>> happens to be written by one of my cousins:
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>> http://isbn.nu/0865714738
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>> As we are discovering, Drupal is not radical simplicity. Earlier today
>> we had an impromptu chat about that in the webteam room:
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>> http://logs.jabber.org/webteam@conference.jabber.org/2008-05-12.html
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>> In particular, we talked about the possibility of scrapping Drupal
>> altogether and simply using XHTML and server-side includes, or at most
>> XML+XSLT, to generate the jabber.org website. This is what we do for the
>> xmpp.org site and we never have a problem there. Is the jabber.org
>> really all *that* different or special that it requires a full CMS?
>>
>> Your thoughts are welcome. :)
>>
>> Peter
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> Drupal has to stay.
> If we want to harvest extra effort from many people and build an 
> active community we need to provide fitting tools.
> Everything else than a community CMS is not the right choice for that.
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> Yes, our experience with drupal may have been bad.
> But as Walkah mentions: we need to work properly with drupal.
> We didn't do that.
> I'm not really a coder and relatively new to drupal with few time, 
> Hedgemage has even less time, and MattJ does not really think that 
> Drupal is a benefit at all :P
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> So I think we need more enthusiastic manpower behind the project, 
> instead of a solution that is realistic but only provides us with a 
> rather "dead" page.
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> But we shouldn't expect Drupal to solve everything by itself in 
> version 6.
> We just have to "iterate iterate iterate" - Hopefully simultaneously 
> with the jump from 5 to 6.
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Besides, I think we set the page "online" way too early :P