[webteam] radical simplicity

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Wed May 21 22:26:48 CDT 2008


On 05/21/2008 6:41 PM, Robert Martinez wrote:
> Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>> Jabber is infrastructure. You don't see a community form around
>> infrastructure -- at least not a community of end users. There's no
>> community around electric power, municipal water, interstate highways,
>> IPv4, SMTP, HTTP, or any other piece of infrastructure. And that's fine!
>> But we need to realize that non-technical people will never get excited
>> about Jabber / XMPP. They might get excited about certain applications
>> that are built using XMPP (say, Twitter or even a particular Jabber
>> client perhaps), but never about the underlying technology itself.
>>
>>   
> <snip>
>> I don't think we'll see a lot of people use the jabber.org website.
>> Mostly they will use it to find a link to something else. We don't need
>> a dynamically-generated website with database-driven content and so on
>> just so that people can be linked off to somewhere else.
>>
>>   
> I think you're only partially right, too. Jabber isn't _just_ an
> infrastructure.
> 
> Maybe it would be _just that_ , if there was no MSN and ICQ.
> Right now jabber is THE ONE side of a battlefield. It plays a major role
> in the battle between god end evil ;) - but where should we send our
> soldiers to?
> Ok - the true fans have their favorite clients and support them in the
> first place. But what about all the people that are concerned about the
> battle itself?
> On top of that, any client community has a certain affinity to our goals
> and ideas.
> If we manage to activate their interest and integrate only a small part
> of their enthusiasm, we can collect more than enough manpower to build
> the website we had in mind:
> 
> A community driven hub to promote the use of xmpp related projects.
> (If I'm not entirely mistaken this is what we want! With all the great
> features we "could" integrate into that)

I like your attitude! :) Yes, we are fighting for open communication and
freedom of conversation. That's what Jabber has always been about, since
1999.

The question is, what kind of services do we need to offer at the
jabber.org domain to achieve those goals?

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre
https://stpeter.im/

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