Hi Flow,
Thanks for following up. I want to make sure I understand the value you see in making tallies accessible to members specifically, because I'm not immediately seeing what it adds over publishing outcomes only.
The concern driving this proposal is that vote counts create an uncomfortable experience for applicants, effectively ranking accepted members by how many people voted against them. That concern applies equally whether the audience is the general public or fellow XSF members: the applicant still ends up with a visible score attached to their membership.
I can see a general argument for transparency to the membership (accountability of the voting body, trust in the process) but I'm not sure tallies specifically are what delivers that. Knowing that someone received 30 yes and 5 no votes doesn't tell us much without knowing who voted which way and why.
So I'd genuinely like to understand: what would you be able to do, or assess, with access to the tallies that you couldn't do with outcomes alone? That would help me understand whether this is a meaningful transparency concern or more of a general comfort with having the numbers available.
Kind regards,
Guus
Maybe Memberbot can reply the latest tallies upon request from members who can vote
On 03/03/2026 18.14, Matthew Wild wrote:
> 2) Cease publishing vote tallies for membership applications
Yes please, but as I mentioned in today's board meeting, I'd like the
tallies to be accessible for members.
I am usually very much in favor of transparency, but the rationale for
casing the publication of the vote tallies is sound, the public doesn't
need to know the tallies, just the outcome. However, it feels wrong if
this would mean that the information is no longer accessible by XSF
members as it would be the opposite of being transparent.
If that means that we provide the information on a restricted wiki page,
via XMPP to authorized entities, or upon request can be sorted out later.
- Flow