Hi Ralph,

I think you've diagnosed this more sharply than I did. Would you write it up? I've taken the prior-art survey; this seems like the more important half.

Kind regards,

  Guus

On Wed, Jul 8, 2026 at 1:22 PM Ralph Meijer <ralphm@ik.nu> wrote:
On 08/07/2026 13.09, Guus der Kinderen wrote:
> Hi Ralph,
>
> I agree Council is not fully responsible, and I'd support saying so
> explicitly. However, I think that XEP-0001 is already quite explicit
> in this (requiring rough consensus, running code, Council approval
> reads like the "shared responsibility" that we're talking about). I'm
> not sure there's a gap.
>
> If you think the current _understanding_ differs from the current
> text, that seems worth saying out loud on the list.

My understanding of how it should work (and worked during my 8 year
tenure) is supported by what we have written down, but mostly focused on
the perspective of an author. I increasingly feel that the current
Council and Standards-JIG in general do not, as evidenced by the
discussions on Experimental vs. Draft, the topic at hand, and perceived
pressure on the work of the Editors and Council.

Our procedures are not very explicit about what is expected of Council
or Editors, i.e. how to review and what the responsibility for the
outcome is.

ralphm

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