I'm still alive. Thanks for the propsosal yiwei wu.

I have another change I'd like to make for XEP-0424 and will include this as well.

Should be up in the coming days.

I've pinged Lance offlist to see if he has opinions about this.

Peter

On 11/1/26 1:10 AM, yiwei wu wrote:

Does anyone know how to reach Lance Stout or JC Brand? I haven’t been
able to contact them by email, and I’d appreciate hearing the authors’
thoughts on my proposal.

yiwei wu <huxiangkun2003@gmail.com> 于2026年10月26日周一 22:29写道：

I would like to bring up an inconsistency between XEP-0425 (Moderated Message Retraction) and XEP-0424 (Message Retraction).
In XEP-0425 (Example 9, illustrating a tombstone), the <retracted> element contains a <reason> child element.
Under standard XML namespace inheritance rules, <reason> inherits the namespace of its parent (urn:xmpp:message-retract:1). However, XEP-0424 currently does not define or mention <reason> anywhere in its specification or XML schema for <retracted>

I propose updating XEP-0424 to explicitly allow an optional <reason> element as a direct child of <retracted>. This element would contain human-readable text explaining why the message was retracted.Since the <reason> element would be optional,
It aligns the formal definition in XEP-0424 with the usage already illustrated in XEP-0425.
And does not introduce breaking changes to any known existing implementations.

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