Renaming XEP-0472: Pubsub Social Feed
Greetings. I would want to propose to replace the word "social" by another word. The reason for this, is because "social" would imply of theme "social network", even though this is not only for that theme. This means, that some developers would be reluctant to add support for XEP-0472 because they would be of the opinion that their software is not intended for social network theme. In order to avoid that misunderstanding, I suggest to rename the title. Please advise. Kind regards, Schimon. P.S. Mr. Webber, has proposed to name Atom Over XMPP (i.e. XEP-0277 and XEP-0472) as "Feeds" in the graphical interface of Cheogram. In addition, Arne of monocles chat, JC Brand and Nicolas (nioc) are alos in favour of adding support for Atom Over XMPP to their software. I maintain a list of projects of which I petition for Atom Over XMPP. gemini://woodpeckersnest.space/~schapps/journal/2024-05-30-publishing-over-xmpp.gmi
Hi, Author here, I'm not sure if the name of the XEP is really blocking people to implement it. The goal of this XEP is to standardize a generic way to publish Atom elements AND some specific configuration and most of the usage for that will be for social features, but if you want to use it for other purposes I don't see what would it be a problem. Another thing is that this XEP is coming with several namespaces (urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:1, urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:gallery:1...) that are now used already on the network quite extensively. Another XEP is also built on 0472, Pubsub Stories https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0501.html with its own namespace (urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:stories:0), and more to come. This XEP is a bit more than Atom over XMPP (check the Profiles https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0472.html#profiles), and regarding the difficulties to rename it without deprecating/breaking things I'd just advice to just keep the current name. I'm OK to amend the XEP however, for example completing the introduction to give some details about what you're proposing so feel free to do a little PR with your improvements, I'd be happy to review them. Regards, edhelas Le 07/04/2025 à 13:36, Schimon Jehudah a écrit :
Greetings.
I would want to propose to replace the word "social" by another word.
The reason for this, is because "social" would imply of theme "social network", even though this is not only for that theme.
This means, that some developers would be reluctant to add support for XEP-0472 because they would be of the opinion that their software is not intended for social network theme.
In order to avoid that misunderstanding, I suggest to rename the title.
Please advise.
Kind regards, Schimon.
P.S.
Mr. Webber, has proposed to name Atom Over XMPP (i.e. XEP-0277 and XEP-0472) as "Feeds" in the graphical interface of Cheogram.
In addition, Arne of monocles chat, JC Brand and Nicolas (nioc) are alos in favour of adding support for Atom Over XMPP to their software.
I maintain a list of projects of which I petition for Atom Over XMPP. gemini://woodpeckersnest.space/~schapps/journal/2024-05-30-publishing-over-xmpp.gmi _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list -- standards@xmpp.org To unsubscribe send an email to standards-leave@xmpp.org
Good day. Timothée. I thank you very much for your respond. I also think, that the name is fine and should not constitute a set back. This apparent problem arose due to a certain respond that I am still puzzled with. I will send a link directly to your email. I will further consult about it and respond on this mailing list, if needed. Kind regards, Schimon On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 13:57:49 +0200 Timothée Jaussoin <edhelas@movim.eu> wrote:
Hi,
Author here, I'm not sure if the name of the XEP is really blocking people to implement it. The goal of this XEP is to standardize a generic way to publish Atom elements AND some specific configuration and most of the usage for that will be for social features, but if you want to use it for other purposes I don't see what would it be a problem.
Another thing is that this XEP is coming with several namespaces (urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:1, urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:gallery:1...) that are now used already on the network quite extensively. Another XEP is also built on 0472, Pubsub Stories https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0501.html with its own namespace (urn:xmpp:pubsub-social-feed:stories:0), and more to come.
This XEP is a bit more than Atom over XMPP (check the Profiles https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0472.html#profiles), and regarding the difficulties to rename it without deprecating/breaking things I'd just advice to just keep the current name.
I'm OK to amend the XEP however, for example completing the introduction to give some details about what you're proposing so feel free to do a little PR with your improvements, I'd be happy to review them.
Regards,
edhelas
Le 07/04/2025 à 13:36, Schimon Jehudah a écrit :
Greetings.
I would want to propose to replace the word "social" by another word.
The reason for this, is because "social" would imply of theme "social network", even though this is not only for that theme.
This means, that some developers would be reluctant to add support for XEP-0472 because they would be of the opinion that their software is not intended for social network theme.
In order to avoid that misunderstanding, I suggest to rename the title.
Please advise.
Kind regards, Schimon.
P.S.
Mr. Webber, has proposed to name Atom Over XMPP (i.e. XEP-0277 and XEP-0472) as "Feeds" in the graphical interface of Cheogram.
In addition, Arne of monocles chat, JC Brand and Nicolas (nioc) are alos in favour of adding support for Atom Over XMPP to their software.
I maintain a list of projects of which I petition for Atom Over XMPP. gemini://woodpeckersnest.space/~schapps/journal/2024-05-30-publishing-over-xmpp.gmi _______________________________________________ Standards mailing list -- standards@xmpp.org To unsubscribe send an email to standards-leave@xmpp.org
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