[Council] Moving Forward: Process

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Tue Mar 19 16:44:07 CST 2002

Personally I think we can handle this by having the JEP Editor poke the
JEP Author. I am not really worried about experimental JEPs becoming
defacto standards, but maybe I'm missing something here. It is clearly
stated that the JSF in no way endorses experimental proposals. Especially
once we have position papers, if an experimental JEP does not address the
Council's published concerns then we will have a clear basis for saying
that the proposal was unacceptable. The JEP Editor can always submit the
JEP for consideration and the Council can reject it -- a status of
Rejected should scare off potential implementers, no?


Peter Saint-Andre
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Peter Millard wrote:

> I'm ok with most of this, but it seems that Dizzy is trying to promote more
> "active" pushing of the JEPS so that a JEP is not allowed the time stagnate.
> The problem we've had in the past is that an idea is proposed, then
> implemented, then holes get shot thru it :)
> If the JEP author is allowed the luxury of letting the JEP sit in
> experimental for a long time, we run the risk of having it become a
> "de-facto" standard because an implementation exists. Would imposing a time
> limit on Experimental JEPS solve this problem?? (I'm not sure and can argue
> both sides of the issue I think :)  So it seems the key elements are steps 4
> & 5:
> > 4. Community discusses the JEP, guided by the position paper, for as long
> > as the author would like (no time limit on discussion and modification,
> > though we might want to force a six-month timeout as the IETF does)
> >
> > 5. At the author's request, JEP Editor submits the JEP for a formal vote
> > by the Council (status: Proposed)
> Should the council be responsible for "poking" the JEP author after
> discussion dies down on the list?? Should the JEP editor be responsible for
> this?? OR, do we have some notion of "inactivity" that can be measure and
> mandate that some state change happen withen some time limit of inactivity?
> My $0.02
> Peter M.
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