[Council] need for Last Call on JEP-0147 (was: [Fwd: GenART review of draft-saintandre-xmpp-iri-03])

Matthew A. Miller linuxwolf at outer-planes.net
Mon Mar 13 14:13:39 CST 2006

+1 from me.

Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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> As part of the IETF Last Call process for draft-saintandre-xmpp-iri, the
> expert reviewer of that I-D suggested that the registry for XMPP URI
> query components be created before the IESG approves of the I-D. Because
> the Jabber Registrar cannot create the registry until JEP-0147 is
> advanced to a status of Draft, I would like to request a (JSF) Last Call
> on this JEP (and I don't particularly want to wait on issuing the Last
> Call until the next Jabber Council meeting on March 23, since I'd prefer
> not to hold up the IETF process). Therefore, I would appreciate it if
> Council members could indicate if they have any objections to issuing a
> Last Call for JEP-0147. If not, I would like to issue the Last Call by
> the end of today if possible.
> Also, given that JSF Last Calls normally are for a period of not less
> than 10 days and that a 10-day Last Call would end at the close of
> business on March 23 if issued today, we have two options if we want to
> expedite advancement of JEP-0147: (1) issue a 9-day Last Call or (2)
> move the next Council meeting to something like Monday, March 27. Please
> indicate your preference.
> Thanks!
> Peter
> Message from IETF reviewer follows...
> - -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: GenART review of draft-saintandre-xmpp-iri-03
> Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 21:55:26 -0500
> From: Black_David at emc.com
> To: gen-art at ietf.org, stpeter at jabber.org
> CC: sah at 428cobrajet.net, Black_David at emc.com
> Background for those who may be unaware of GenART:
> GenART is the Area Review Team for the General Area of the IETF.
> We advise the General Area Director (i.e. the IETF/IESG chair) by
> providing more in depth reviews than he could do himself of documents
> that come up for final decision in IESG telechat.  I was selected
> as the GenART member to review this document.  Below is my review,
> which was written specifically with an eye to the GenART process, but
> since I believe that it will be useful to have these comments more
> widely distributed, others outside the GenART group are included.
> This review was done as part of IETF Last Call.
> Review criteria: "Is this document a reasonable contribution to the
> area of Internet engineering which it covers?  If not, what changes
> would make it so?"
> This draft is on the right track but has open issues, described
> in the review.
> Section 2.5 contains the following note:
>    (Note: In pursuit of interoperability, it may be helpful to maintain
>    a registry of query types and perhaps even of keys for use in XMPP
>    query components.  Given that such values will most likely be
>    specific to particular applications of XMPP rather than core to XMPP
>    itself, it seems reasonable that such a registry, if created, would
>    be maintained by the Jabber Registrar function of the Jabber Software
>    Foundation as described in [JEP-0053], rather than by the IANA.  A
>    proposal for creating such a registry can be found in [JEP-0147].)
> Given the importance of interoperability to the IETF, IESG approval of this
> draft should probably be delayed until that registry is functional so that
> the draft can document registration requirements for query components.
> This problem is ironically caused by XMPP's success in being used by
> multiple independent applications (e.g., list in Section 2.1), requiring
> a registry like this to prevent collisions among their use of URIs/IRIs.
> Nit - In Section 3.6 add "RFC " before "XXXX" and add an RFC Editor note
> to tell the RFC Editor to replace "XXXX" with the number of the published
> RFC and delete the note.
> Thanks,
> - --David
> - ----------------------------------------------------
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-  LW

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