[Council] Fwd: Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Data Forms XML Element

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at stpeter.im
Tue Oct 9 22:24:14 UTC 2012


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FYI, an agenda item for Thursday...


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Subject: Re: [Standards] Proposed XMPP Extension: Data Forms XML Element
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 16:22:22 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter at stpeter.im>
Reply-To: XMPP Standards <standards at xmpp.org>
To: XMPP Standards <standards at xmpp.org>

On 6/22/12 7:26 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> 
> On Jun 21, 2012, at 10:47, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> 
>> On 6/20/12 8:42 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>> On 6/20/12 6:03 AM, Sergey Dobrov wrote:
>>>> On 06/20/2012 01:32 AM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
>>>>> On 6/19/12 10:17 AM, XMPP Extensions Editor wrote:
>>>>>> The XMPP Extensions Editor has received a proposal for a 
>>>>>> new XEP.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Title: Data Forms XML Element
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Abstract: This specification defines an XMPP protocol 
>>>>>> extension for including XML-data in XEP-0004 data forms.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> URL: 
>>>>>> http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xml-media-element.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> As Lance Stout pointed out in the 
>>>>> jdev at conference.jabber.org room...
>>>>> 
>>>>> This proposal has an element name of:
>>>>> 
>>>>> <xml xmlns='urn:xmpp:xml-element'>
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, the core XML spec says:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "This specification does not constrain the application 
>>>>> semantics, use, or (beyond syntax) names of the element 
>>>>> types and attributes, except that names beginning with a 
>>>>> match to (('X'|'x')('M'|'m')('L'|'l')) are reserved for 
>>>>> standardization in this or future versions of this 
>>>>> specification."
>>>>> 
>>>>> See: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-xml/#NT-element
>>>>> 
>>>>> So at least we need to change the element name. :)
>>>> 
>>>> Ok, I thought about such restrictions but was not be able to 
>>>> find them in specs, so thanks to Lance.
>>>> 
>>>> What other name can be used for that? I suppose to use just 
>>>> <wrapper xmlns='urn:xmpp:xml-element/>
>>> 
>>> Anything but 'x' 'm' 'l' -- <wrapper/> or <element/> or 
>>> whatever you please. :)
> 
>> Sergey fixed this, and I've pushed his update to git and to the 
>> website:
> 
>> http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/xml-media-element.html
> 
> 
> That clears my objection, thanks!

It seems that this was the only objection voiced by a Council member,
and thus this proposal deserved to be published a few months ago. I'll
double-check with the Council during its meeting on Thursday and then
publish the proposal as a XEP if the Council has no further concerns.

Peter

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