[Council] 2015-12-09 Meeting Minutes

[Sam Whited]

# 2015-12-09 Council Meeting

Logs: http://logs.xmpp.org/council/2015-12-09/#16:00:10

## Roll call

- Lance
- Dave
- PSA
- Tobias
- MattJ


## ProtoXEP Message Attaching: Accept as Experimental

http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/attachto.html

  - +1 MattJ
  - +1 Lance
  - +1 psa
  - +1 Tobias
  - +1 Dave


## ProtoXEP Quality of Service: Accept as Experimental

http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/qos.html

  - -1 Dave
  - -1 MattJ
  - -1 Lance
  - Tobias on list

  - PSA notes that ensuring exactly once delivery is hard
  - MattJ notes that MQTT does it, but is not federated


## ProtoXEP SRV records for XMPP over TLS: Accept as Experimental

http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/tls-srv.html

  - +1 Dave
  - +1 Lance
  - +1 PSA
  - +1 Tobias
  - +1 MattJ

  - Lance notes that it's "in that awkward spot between XEP [and] RFC"
  - PSA notes that SASL and STARTTLS started as XEPs and then became RFCs


## ProtoXEP Multi-User Chat Light: Accept as Experimental

http://xmpp.org/extensions/inbox/muc-light.html

  - MattJ on list
  - Tobias on list
  - PSA on list
  - Dave on list
  - Lance on list

  - Dave notes that it's a minimalist MUC implementation not based on
PubSub that
    rejects presence entirely rather than making it optional (and is leaning
    towards -1)
  - Lance notes that it requires roster items for rooms to be in a particular
    group


## XEP-0138: Update to 2.1

https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/100

  - +1 Tobias
  - +1 PSA
  - +1 MattJ (pending links and better explanation of chosen plaintext attacks)

  - Dave notes that not returning the original stanza in errors would
probably do
    the same thing
  - Sam wonders if it should be worth withdrawing the PR and waiting on a more
    comprehensive review of 0138?
    - PSA notes that he's been saying that all along
    - MattJ agrees

Action item:

  - Identify who is qualified to do a security audit of XEP-0138

## Move XEP-0301 to Final

- +1 Dave
- PSA wonders if their are fixes on the way, Lance tables discussion until next
  week

## Date of next

SBTSBC?

  - MattJ: nwwfm
  - Tobias: wfm

Aside: Note taker is confused and doesn't know what any of this means.

## AOB

None

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