[Council] XMPP Council Agenda 2020-10-14

Jonas Schäfer jonas at wielicki.name
Tue Oct 13 16:24:14 UTC 2020

Hi everyone,

The next XMPP Council Meeting will take place on 2020-10-14 at 15:00Z in 
xmpp:council at muc.xmpp.org?join. Everyone is welcome to join and add to the 

This agenda is composed from:

- Editor notifications to standards@
- xsf/xeps GitHub PRs marked as Needs Council
- Suggestions directly sent to me (see below)

Agenda as follows:

1) Roll Call

2) Agenda Bashing

* Feel free to pre-bash on-list or directly to me if you think something is 

3) Editor’s Update

- Accepted XEP-0393 (Message Styling) as Draft
- Accepted XEP-0444 (Message Reactions) as Experimental

4) Items for voting

NOTE: There are a lot of items on the list. We might have to carry some of 
them over to the next meeting. If you disagree with the ordering, please let 
me know ASAP.

4a) Issue LC for XEP-0443: Compliance Suites 2020
URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0443.html
Abstract: This document defines XMPP application categories for different use 
cases (Core, Web, IM, and Mobile), and specifies the required XEPs that client 
and server software needs to implement for compliance with the use cases.

4b) Request CFE for XEP-0363 or wait for OOB fixes/replacement
URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0363.html
Abstract: Do we want it? Normally, CFE does not need to be authorized by 
Council, however, some would like to discuss the OOB integration first.

4c) Decide on Advancement of XEP-0411: Bookmarks Conversion
URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0411.html
Abstract: This specification describes a method to migrate to PEP based 
bookmarks without loosing compatibility with client that still use Private 

4d) Decide on Advancement of XEP-0292: vCard4 over XMPP
URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0292.html
Abstract: This document specifies an XMPP extension for use of the vCard4 XML 
format in XMPP systems, with the intent of obsoleting the vcard-temp format.

4e) Decide on Advancement of XEP-0352: Client State Indication
URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0352.html
Abstract: This document defines a way for the client to indicate its active/
inactive state..

4f) Decide on Advancement of XEP-0353: Jingle Message Initiation
URL: https://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0353.html
Abstract: This specification provides a way for the initiator of a Jingle 
session to propose sending an invitation in an XMPP message stanza, thus 
taking advantage of message delivery semantics instead of sending IQ stanzas 
to all of the responder's online resources or choosing a particular online 

4g) MR#22: XEP-0308: modernize LMC sending rules
URL: https://gitlab.com/xsf/xeps/-/merge_requests/22
Restart vote after change from last week.

(this is to gather early feedback and give authors time to integrate changes 
before the end of year)

5) Pending Votes

- Georg and me on the integer-or-max-type thing. I can state here already that 
I am +1 on the integer-or-max thing regarding the idea, but <editor-hat>it 
needs editorial work (see the PR: https://github.com/xsf/xeps/pull/988 )</

6) Date of Next

7) AOB

8) Close

End of Agenda.

Note that I am aiming for 30 minutes, but meetings may be extended as 
necessary if all council members agree.

Meetings are normally held every Wednesday at 15:00 UTC in the
xmpp:council at muc.xmpp.org?join chatroom.
Meetings are open, and anyone (XSF Member or not) may attend, though only XMPP 
Council members may vote. Relevant comments from the floor are welcomed.

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If you have suggestions for an agenda item, you can message me via XMPP or 
email at this address or at jonas at zombofant.net.

I aim to publish the Agenda on the day before the Council meeting before 
19:00Z (that didn’t work out this time).

Thanks everyone,
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