[IOT] Feedback on pubsub for IoT

Joachim Lindborg joachim.lindborg at sust.se
Wed Apr 29 09:37:00 UTC 2015

I do agree we haven't pursued the pubsub for IoT yet I am doing it very
simple using MUC rooms today sending xep 323 message events with
type="groupchat" to a MUC room meaning that the MQTT topic is the MUC room
name/topic and there is one moderator who is "publishing" and anyone
joining the room either white listed or not blacklisted can start listening
and silently agreeing not to sending by it self.


Joachim Lindborg
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2015-04-29 11:02 GMT+02:00 Cramer, E.R. (Eelco) <Eelco.Cramer at tno.nl>:

>  For a project that I’m doing with several partners I’m proposed to use
> the XMPP IoT experimental extensions (including the not yet submitted
> eventing extension). One requirement for the project is that the ‘Things’
> should use as little data as possible and for this we wanted to optimise
> the data the Things are sending to subscribers. Another requirements was
> that we would like to be able to have fine grained control on which
> subscribers would be allowed to subscribe and receive the data.
>  We want to accommodate multiple listeners to the same events, this is
> quite pub/sub like, and discussed to use either MQTT or XMPP.
>  A few things I noticed during our discussion:
>    1. The partners did not see the eventing extension as pubsub but
>    rather as p2p because clients need to subscribe to all the different things
>    instead of to only a single topic.
>    2. There is currently no best practises in using pubsub or PEP for IoT.
>    3. Management of pubsub nodes (manage subscribers and publishers) is
>    cumbersome and not all functions (authorization schemes) are supported by
>    all XMPP servers.
>    4. I proposed an alternative pubsub like service, that I called
>    ‘dealer’, which acts as a IoT concentrator towards the subscribers and that
>    would subscribe to all Things the clients would want to receive events from.
>  Currently the project is leaning towards MQTT, mostly because partners
> like that concept of pubsub over the XMPP alternatives (verbosity of XMPP
> is not considered an issue).
>  I would like to share this feedback as it might be useful in progressing
> the IoT extensions further.
>  Cheers,
> Eelco
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