[JDEV] The Important Things

Al Sutton al at alsutton.com
Thu Jan 10 02:08:58 CST 2002

I think one thing we could do is go to the ISPs with an open book and
say "What would you want from an IM service?", don't say yes or no to
anything (except the things we already have), and then start forming a
to-do list from it. 

The list from Mike Lin can act as a start, but we need people going to
these companies asking what they want to fill it out.

Is anyone doing this/thinking of doing this?


On Thu, 2002-01-10 at 07:19, Ashvil wrote:
> > The end-user technology is not compelling enough yet to make average users
> > of the big IM services come over to form a critical mass of Jabber users,
> > regardless of what their ISPs say.
> As a client developer that hurts but that's a true statement. How can we
> open a conversation between Jabber end users, server developers and client
> developers.
> One idea is an Open Survey at Jabber.org to find the compelling feature set
> that a Jabber client requires. Does this make sense. If so, I can develop a
> survey like this.  Can we host this at Jabber.org?
> >I suspect that we would have difficulty
> > at this point supporting that many users; relative to the other services,
> > Jabber tends to be more complex and has a considerable learning curve of
> > its own.
> With regards to scalabilty, I feel that we need to move to the Apache and
> SendMail model. Millions of small servers in different domains, rather then
> AOL's centralized model. If some ISP still demands scalabilty, then they can
> choose Jabber.com's JCS.
> >But we are finding new metaphors in our clients; our protocol and
> > server software is evolving; and we as a community are slowly learning our
> > strengths and weaknesses so that we can capitalize and anticipate.
> One of the biggest strengths that Jabber has is that it allows a sysadmin to
> setup their own IM server, that can communicate to the outside world. We
> need to leverage this to make Jabber grow via the grassroots way like Apache
> and Mozilla.
> Regards,
> Ashvil
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