[JDEV] Re: Open Source?

David Waite mass at akuma.org
Thu Feb 27 11:12:25 CST 2003

I would suggest you read the Open Source Definition (at 
http://www.opensource.org/docs/definition.php) before calling your 
software Open-Source. In particular, your licensing does not meet 
sections 1 and 6.

-David Waite

Sebastiaan Deckers wrote:

> Ok, time for some clarification.
> I'm one of the two RhymBox developers.  Shalom contacted me a few days 
> ago with this very same question and I answered his questions, as I do 
> with every request.  I did not receive any response from him.  Whatever.
>> Shalom Levytam wrote:
>> Thanks, this helps a bit.
>> I guess Rhymbox is closed source then...
> Take a look in the subdirectory "src" where you installed RhymBox.  It 
> contains all scripts, HTML and CSS that you need to modify the GUI.
> The source code for the .exe framework is not distributed because 
> pretty much the only reason you would need that is to create 
> commercial application based on RhymBox.  And we don't want that right 
> now.
> We do however give out that source code to friends, people we trust, 
> people who pay, etc.  Contact me directly for more about this.  JDEV 
> is not a mailing list about one client.
> > Tijl Houtbeckers wrote:
>> "
>> Free services
>> RhymBox client and Jabber server
>> We offer a next-generation Jabber client. RhymBox is open source and 
>> free of charge for personal use. "
>> It doesn't state what licence though, but "free of charge for 
>> personal use" sort of implies not free for commercial use Perhaps a 
>> more clear licence is provided in the download (since it's a DHTML 
>> application I assume source is bundled with the download (or maybe 
>> there's a way to compile DHTML these days).
> There are ways to conceil DHTML code but they are flawed, hardly worth 
> the effort and the exact opposite of what "open-source" means to the 
> RhymBox project.  The license states something like "you can modify 
> the source code as long as you don't make a million bucks selling it 
> behind our backs".  Not in those words though. ;-)
> The license is the first screen of the installer, and is also placed 
> in the installation directory ("License.txt") for reviewing.
> We want people to be able to tweak the program interface, to learn 
> about the Jabber protocol, to have an example of programming for the 
> different libraries and languages that we use.  Nothing more.

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