[JDEV] Does IBM chooses XMPP or SIMPLE?

Federico Lucifredi flucifredi at acm.org
Thu May 15 11:43:12 CDT 2003

Hello Mattias,
    As I understand the IBM situation, they have adopted SIP/SIMPLE for
Lotus Sametime -- probably on the assumption that SIP/SIMPLE would be the
IETF standard (I guess they made this decision before the XMPP wg was
chartered). Later in December las year, an IBM person in the SIP/SIMPLE wg
said that IBM will go with whatever is best _and_ is the standard, leaving
an open door to XMPP. The same person later authored an XMPP over SIP draft
in the SIP/SIMPLE wg where he proposed to use XMPP for session-mode IM - a
"feature" (LOL) that SIMPLE still lacks -- and not the only one right now


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mattias Campe" <mattias.campe at UGent.be>
To: <jdev at jabber.org>
Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 12:00
Subject: [JDEV] Does IBM chooses XMPP or SIMPLE?

> Hi,
> I'm a little bit confused: at http://www.jabber.org/sponsors/ibm.php I
> read that IBM is a sponsor for the JSF, great :).
> But then, on the other hand, I read in the article "XMPP rises to face
> SIMPLE standard" the following
> <quote>
> Whereas Microsoft and IBM have thrown their weight behind SIMPLE, a
> groundswell of support is rising behind XMPP, as Hewlett-Packard, Intel,
>   Hitachi, Sony, and others invest in the technology.
> </quote>
> Are they both correct? It would suprise me that IBM puts money in XMPP
> and effort in SIMPLE?
> confusing greetings,
> Mattias
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