[JDEV] JEP-0124: HTTP transport binding

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Fri Nov 7 09:39:57 CST 2003

Why are you posting this to JDEV? People on the Standards-JIG list won't
necessarily see this here, and that's the venue for protocol discussions.


On Fri, Nov 07, 2003 at 10:07:27AM +0100, Bart van Bragt wrote:
> http://www.jabber.org/jeps/jep-0124.html
> Some remarks:
> - The main difference between 124 and 25 seems to be the lack of Cookies?
> - Is there some kind of standard/convention for the /webclient part? Or 
> will the user have to supply this? IMO it would be nice if there would 
> be some kind of default for this to make the lives of the users (and the 
> support staff) easier.
> If we're going to create a JEP that's going to supersede Jep-25 then it 
> would be nice if we also add some (really useful) functionality to it. 
> IMO it would be _extremely_ nice if the protocol would also support two 
> way traffic. I.e. the client connects to port 80 on the server to send 
> packages but the server can also connect to the client through port 80 
> with an HTTP request.
> This would be _extremely_ useful to make it a LOT easier to integrate 
> Jabber into websites. The main problem with web integration is that it's 
> either limited to one way traffic (only messages from the site to the 
> user). If you want two way traffic you'll need either a bot or control 
> over a Jabber server to receive messages. Most sites run on shared 
> hosting and those admins are not allowed to run any bots.
> If the server could just it's responses/messages to a simple 
> PHP/JSP/Perl/whatever script on the website then it would be trivial to 
> implement Jabber integration. I've said it before (quite a few times now 
> I think ;)) IMO web integration is really one of the points in which 
> Jabber can really excel. It's _very_ hard to properly integrate 
> MSN/ICQ/AIM/Yahoo into a website, especially if you want two way 
> communication.
> -- 
> Bart

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