[JDEV] Dialback and STARTTLS

Justin Karneges justin-keyword-jabber.093179 at affinix.com
Thu Nov 20 18:46:46 CST 2003

TLS already proves who each party is, so using dialback in combination would 
just be redundant (and less secure).

I hope you're not planning on using a cert-less TLS between servers.  That 
would be a really bad precedent to set.


On Thursday 20 November 2003 01:52 pm, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 09:53:52PM +0100, Matthias Wimmer wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > If Dialback is implemented together with STARTTLS. What is the intended
> > layering of these two protocols?
> > Should dialback used first and TLS started afterwards or should TLS
> > started first (should it be used for the dialback connection as well?)?
> >
> > Or is it forbidden to use STARTTLS together with dialback?
> I think dialback should be done first, then TLS. Applying dialback first
> ensures that the domain names have been validated, and there is nothing
> in the dialback negotiation that really requires channel encryption as
> far as I can see.
> > HAM: DB1MW                      xmpp:mawis at charente.de
> Hmm, what about the HAM transport? ;-)
> /psa

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