[JDEV] Videoconferencing withjabber/Re:[speex-dev]Videoconferencing with speex and jabber

Ulrich B. Staudinger us at die-horde.de
Fri Nov 28 09:08:17 CST 2003

Am Fr, 2003-11-28 um 15.47 schrieb Richard Dobson:
> > Well... (was at lunch).
> Ok
> > The thought was, the protocol defines administration in p2p, for some
> > reasons ... i.e. ban/kick, a client does not necessarily have to follow
> > these specs, i can silently ignore a ban/kick.
> Ah yes the client could ignore someone (quite a good idea), but whoever is
> the op/admin could also have the ability to kick someone from the chat
> entirely.
> > i pulled in an existing example, the same goes for the 'invisible'
> > presence, to show that a p2p spec won't lead anywhere beside sharing
> > streams. That really is my opinion on this.
> > if a client doesn't implement presence inv. an inv user still is
> > online...
> Not sure what you mean here, can you explain a little more?

what i mean is this: 
The 'invisible' presence in jabber is a perfect example for a spec which
can be omitted. I user may feel happy that he is invisible, but in fact
he only thinks he is invisible, because some people still see him
online, but as 'invisible'. 

that as a fundament, i mean that p2p functions are much easier to walk
around (i.e. ban - a user can silently ignore the ban ....)

cya tomorrow. 


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