[JDEV] Promiscuous presence for user communities (with patch)

Peter Saint-Andre stpeter at jabber.org
Wed Oct 1 17:28:44 CDT 2003

On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 12:39:20PM -0700, Steven Brown wrote:

> There's a pub-sub approach (like you're getting at) and a bcc approach,
> but you can't get the user's trustees those ways (promiscuous presence
> should only go to those who aren't trustees), there are issues sending
> to the connected set of users on the same server and resisting probes
> from other servers, and they are unnecessarily complex.  Promiscuous
> presence is a simple tweak to the available state and conceptually just
> looks really clean.

I have no problem with promiscuous presence, but I do have a problem
with promiscuous protocols. :) Making it use a child element in another
namespace is the right way to go -- adding a new presence type is just
bad form IMHO since the core protocol is now defined by the IETF. 


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