[jdev] Re: New MSN-t in the works

Trejkaz Xaoza trejkaz at xaoza.net
Thu Aug 12 21:29:38 CDT 2004

On Fri, 13 Aug 2004 10:07, James Bunton wrote:
> Right now I have the new transport working. It shouldn't be too hard to
> adapt for AOL/ICQ, all the legacy protocol code is in one directory, so
> that can be swapped out. I've still got a few critical things.
> Disco/Browse/Agents (think it's still worth supporting the last two?), as
> well as in band registration and groupchat.
> Oh yeah, I wanted to ask. Has anybody got any good ideas for a better way
> to do Jabber<->MSN groupchat? The MSN protocol makes no separation between
> groupchats and ordinary chats, and extra people can be invited into a room
> at any time. So the only way I can think of handling it is..
> * MSN contact invites a new person into the room.
> * MSN-t notices, converts the room to a conference and sends Jabber user an
> invite to the virtual conference room
> * Jabber joins the conference and receives any buffered events with
> jabber:x:delay
> * If the Jabber user doesn't join the conference within (maybe 3 minutes?)
> then they get a message from the transport with a transcript of the
> conference room so far, and they leave the conference on the MSN side.
> Any objections/suggestions?

That already sounds infinitely better than what we currently have. :-)

Does the MSN protocol really give the user no way to reject an invite?  I 
always thought it was odd that an MSN user was able to get me into a 
conference even if I didn't want to be there.  I always figured it would be 
better if it sent an invite, and only joined me to the real conference when I 
joined to the transported one. :-/


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