[jdev] Jabber Certification Program

Justin Karneges justin-keyword-jabber.093179 at affinix.com
Thu Jun 17 18:04:31 CDT 2004

On Thursday 17 June 2004 3:25 pm, Julian Missig wrote:
> Protocols do not move forward by sheer will of the council. The
> /reason/ those JEPs are /still/ experimental is because of lack of
> implementation attempts.

Do we really want to relive the DTCP disaster again?  Ever since that 
backlash, I'm afraid to implement anything that doesn't say Draft.

> JEPs do not move forward by sheer will of Council or JEP authors.
> Client-based JEPs need client implementations to test them and work out
> bugs... and then the Council can start moving things forward based on
> real experience.

Has the Council opinion changed?  If so, I wasn't aware of it.  Real 
experience is apparently overrated.  Time for everyone to go read some mail 
about File Transfer in late 2002.

And Tkabber _still_ does DTCP based File Transfer instead of Bytestreams.  Yay 
for standards.

> How many test implementations of jep-secure are there?

jep-secure doesn't even have a JEP number yet, hence the name.  It's still 
stuck in the council/jep-editor void (for 3 months now).  Surely an 
implementation is not expected.


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