[jdev] The `XMPP as a social network` idea

Goffi goffi at goffi.org
Mon Feb 9 11:15:17 UTC 2015


we are working on a "social network" in python, and looking for devs ! 
The project is well advanced: http://salut-a-toi.org (demo on 

I don't want to enter in a implementation language troll, but as far as 
I know, here are the current projects working on microblogging with XMPP:

- Jappix: probably the most famous with buddycloud, implemented mainly 
in javascript, works mainly in browser with BOSH, do microbloggging, has 
a embedded chat version (jappix mini). Web only

- Movim: implemented in PHP/Javascript, was using BOSH but use 
Websockets now (more efficient), do microblogging, RSS feeds 
integration. Web only (there is now a Firefox OS + Android app, the 
later beging an embedded web browser).

- Live Jabber (LiJ): focuses on microblogging, aggregator/gateways to 
other platformes, web + CLI

- Buddycloud: implemented in Java, web + ??? (I think a least mobile). 
Used in production. I don't know that well the internals, but Simon 
already answered to the thread here, so he can give more informations

- Salut à Toi (the one I'm working on): implemented in python, 
multi-frontends (web, desktop, ncurses-style, CLI, etc).

All these projects are active, and we work together and know each other. 
Buddycloud use its own implentation for microblogging, while the other 
ones use XEP-0277. We hope that in the future we'll all be compatible.

So "XMPP as a social network" is defenitely an idea being actively 
worked on.


On 09/02/2015 11:43, Rashid Khan wrote:
> Hey,
> I have been looking to work on building a social network and a social
> network around XMPP seems nice.
> I have experience with Django, so in case you decide to take the idea
> forward, I will really want to work on it.
> Thanks!
> On Sunday, February 8, 2015, <h8h at dev-nu11.de <mailto:h8h at dev-nu11.de>>
> wrote:
>     Hi there
>     What happened with the `XMPP as a social network` idea? I would love
>     to see a social network build on XMPP soon. There are a few projects
>     yet:
>       * Jappix: Runs very well, but its a bit ugly / complicated for new
>     users and the theme is outdated (in my opinion) [1].
>       * Movim: Not so kick-ass as they described. Crashs very often (on
>     my own box) and there is no `easy` option to let (new) user register
>     on my own xmpp server [2].
>       * Onesocialweb is dead [3].
>       * Social Stream: The last commit was at Jun 5, 2014. And its
>     written in ruby [4].
>       * Buddycloud is nice, but its written in Java and Java has many
>     security risks [5].
>     So is `XMPP as a social network` a misuse of the xmpp `standard` /
>     basic idea?
>     Because I'm going to write an open-source social network based on
>     XMPP (mostly pubsub). Maybe in a nicer language (i.e. javascript
>     /php (file upload and so on) / python (django)  ). It should have an
>     activity flow, like Social Stream [4], a Chat (w OTR support), like
>     converse.js [6] and thats all for now. It should be very basic and
>     secure and more suitable for people with less xmpp experience. That
>     means, simple login / user creation, simple posting (w maybe like /
>     dislike) and post reading (activity flow), chat w/o otr.
>     I don't know why the other projects are dead or `not working well`
>     so I hope you folks can give me tricks, hints & pitfalls if I should
>     / shouldn't launch the new project I mentioned above.
>     Thanks so far for your thoughts.
>     Cheers
>     Christian Homeyer
>     [1] https://github.com/jappix/__jappix
>     <https://github.com/jappix/jappix>
>     [2] https://launchpad.net/movim
>     [3] http://onesocialweb.org/ / https://twitter.com/__OneSocialWeb
>     <https://twitter.com/OneSocialWeb>
>     [4] https://github.com/ging/__social_stream/
>     <https://github.com/ging/social_stream/>
>     [5] https://github.com/buddycloud
>     [6] https://github.com/jcbrand/__converse.js
>     <https://github.com/jcbrand/converse.js>
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