Explicit vs. Implicit Initiation [was Re: [Juser] FYI]

Peter Adams praest76 at cancellation.freeserve.co.uk
Fri Aug 30 12:36:22 CDT 2002

Sameer Verma said...

> This is interesting...the post on jabbercentral requires an effort on my
> part to go to that website every day. The mailing list sends messages
> automatically...the classic pull vs push.

Very true, which is why I prefer mailing lists to message boards.

However I use www.changedetection.com to monitor pages for changes. Doens't 
always work (well it detects changes but often incredibly small ones that you 
won't notice when you go there)

> The website is based on pull,
> and the mailinglist is using push. It appears that when it comes to push
> vs. pull, the information is not as important as the initiation method.
> I should know. I did my Ph.D on this ;-)
> (http://verma.sfsu.edu/profile/phd.proposal.pdf)
> It is also interesting how the initiation method ties into how presence
> works. Implicit vs. Explicit supposedly makes all the difference.

My cats breath smells like catfood.

np: %s

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