[Foundation] IETF Update

Tony Bamonti tbamonti at jabber.com
Fri Oct 18 17:56:35 CDT 2002

This message is being distributed to the JSF Membership regarding the XMPP
Working Group status.

Today, the IESG Secretariat announced the day/time of an XMPP "BOF" for the
55th IETF Meeting in Atlanta in November.   This announcement indicates that
the XMPP initiative has secured the 9:00 am - 11:30 am time slot on Tuesday,
November 19th of the Atlanta meeting agenda.   The announcement indicates
that this is a "BOF" (birds of a feather).   However, our sources indicate
that it is being represented as a BOF rather than a Working Group meeting at
this time simply because the IESG has yet to finalize the Working Group
approval and wanted to make sure that a time slot was reserved for the XMPP
Working Group on the agenda.   The announcement of the meeting and
associated agenda can be found here:


Attached below is the latest XMPP Working Group charter.   It has been
recently modified (today) to reflect some final requested changes by the
IESG.  It is expected that with these changes, the IESG will vote to approve
the XMPP Working Group within the next two weeks.  Once the Working Group
has been approved, the Altanta meeting Agenda will be updated to reflect the
XMPP "Working Group" meeting for the November 19th time slot.

I will keep you posted on further developments.  If you are interested in
following or participating in the working group discussions, you can
subscribe to the jabber-ietf at jabber.org mailing list found here:


This list will be changed to "xmppwg at jabber.org" once the working group has
been officially approved.


Tony Bamonti
Jabber, Inc.
tbamonti at jabber.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Pete Resnick [mailto:presnick at qualcomm.com]
Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 11:55 AM
To: jabber-ietf at jabber.org
Subject: [Jabber-IETF] Entire revised charter

For those of you who would rather see it in all its glory, here is 
the entire charter with the IESG changes:

Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol (xmpp)

Pete Resnick <presnick at qualcomm.com>

Applications Area Director(s):
Ned Freed <ned.freed at mrochek.com>
Patrik Faltstrom <paf at cisco.com>

Applications Area Advisor:
Patrik Faltstrom <paf at cisco.com>

Mailing Lists:
General Discussion:xmppwg at jabber.org
To Subscribe: xmppwg-request at jabber.org
In Body: subscribe

Description of Working Group:

XMPP is an open, XML-based protocol for near real-time extensible 
messaging and presence. It is the core protocol of the Jabber Instant 
Messaging and Presence technology which is currently deployed on 
thousands of servers across the Internet and is used by millions of 
people worldwide. The XMPP working group shall adapt the XMPP for use 
as an IETF Instant Messaging and Presence technology.

The working group will use XMPP (as described in draft-miller-xmpp-*) 
as the basis of its work. The final specifications will be consistent 
as much as practical with both the requirements given in RFC2779 and 
the interoperability details in the final version of the CPIM 
specification (draft-ietf-impp-cpim). Note: If a requirement of 
RFC2779 or the final CPIM specification cannot be met, the working 
group will document why this requirement cannot be met.

A major goal of the working group will be to extend the current XMPP 
protocols to provide finished support for RFC 2779-compliant security 
mechanisms, including authentication, privacy, access control and 
end-to-end as well as hop-by-hop message security. 
Mandatory-to-implement security mechanisms will be specified as 
needed in order to guarantee secure protocol interoperability.

The working group shall also add support for internationalization and 
localization to XMPP.

Instant messaging differs from email primarily by requiring 
relatively short delivery latency guarantees and, typically, less 
robust transport service. In addition, instant messaging includes the 
notion of presence information so authorized users can determine if 
their correspondents are available.

BCP 41 will be the basis for working group consideration of the 
transport implications of the XMPP design with respect to network 

Although not encouraged, non-backwards-compatible changes to the 
basis specifications will be acceptable if the working group 
determines that the changes are required to meet the group's 
technical objectives and the group clearly documents the reasons for 
making them.

There are facilities, such as chat rooms, shared white-boards and 
similar services that are not currently discussed in RFC2778 and 
RFC2779. When designing security mechanisms, the working group will 
keep in mind that we expect XMPP to be extended or adapted to 
facilitate these additional services, so that design decisions can be 
made that will not preclude providing these services in the future.

Goals and Milestones:

OCT 02       Prepare revised specifications reflecting issues and 
solutions identified by the working group

NOV 02       Meet at the 55th IETF to discuss current drafts

DEC 02       Submit revised specifications to the IESG for 
consideration as standards-track publications

Pete Resnick <mailto:presnick at qualcomm.com>
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