[Foundation] membership, money, and meritocracy

johannes.wagener at gmx.net johannes.wagener at gmx.net
Thu Apr 3 15:39:43 CST 2003


On 3 Apr 2003 at 12:41, Iain Shigeoka wrote:

> On 4/3/03 12:09, "johannes.wagener at gmx.net" <johannes.wagener at gmx.net>
> wrote:
> 
> > A fee like 200$ would simply STOP me to join the JSF just because i would
> > never earn such money with my client. And I wont accept to make it open
> > source. In fact this would stop many of the free client developers for example
> 
> Matt made a suggestion earlier that would probably apply here. Essentially
> you could apply for a fee waiver providing evidence for why you need the
> waiver and should be a JSF member. A fee waiver essentially gives the Jabber
> board the ability to allow exceptions on a case-by-case basis without
> creating some huge ruleset to try and catch all these special cases.
> 
> Even if you weren't a JSF member, you can still contribute, and JEPs have
> been open for submission and shepherding by non-JSF members from day one. So
> really JSF membership isn't about contributing to the protocols/JEPs. It's
> about helping to govern the JSF itself, run its internal programs, and help
> promote the JSF goals.
> 
> -iain


Oh, I just wonder why I should have to apply!? I see no reason for this. I am already 
member in the JSF and I want newcommers that want to develop clients that do not 
have to be opensource. Of course you are a commercial one, you have the money. But 
that does not mean you deserve a place in the JSF. And esspecially I see no reason 
why WE SIMPLE HOBBY CODERS WILL HAVE TO BEG YOU ST**** FU***** 
COMMERCIALS FOR OUR JSF MEMBERSHIP IN FUTURE!

Btw. can someone please check out if there are more then 5 jivesoftware.com 
members in the mailing list? Iain Shigeoka is one and Matt Tucker - both want to 
restrict the membership to rich commercials and opensource ppl.

If it is really a problem that there are so many ideling JSF members we could set up an 
kick on idle as seen in some IRC channels...

damn!
this sucks!
Edrin



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