[Foundation] a simple reform

Richard Dobson richard at dobson-i.net
Fri Apr 11 09:31:51 CDT 2003

Yea if the whole membership expires who will be left to vote people back in
:), plus there maybe a problem created if the membership numbers go below a
certain threshold level (the rule where only a certain percentage of the
membership maybe made up of people from a particular company).

I liked the idea of a restriction on the number of people (or maybe
percentage) allowed in at each voting session, although it probably wouldnt
work along side the fixed length membership, since very good people may very
well be stopped from coming back in.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Russell Davis" <rkdavis at burninghorse.com>
To: <members at jabber.org>
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Foundation] a simple reform

> on the whole great idea except with the current makeup of the JSF
> membership and depending on how all the details are worked out i can see
> a possible problem with a large block of the current membership coming
> up for renewal at one time.
> Russell
> On Fri, 2003-04-11 at 09:15, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > I'd like to again thank everyone who participated in the recent thread
> > on the meaning of JSF membership. The fact that members are passionate
> > and opinionated is a Good Thing.
> >
> > I've been thinking about this topic for weeks and I've discussed it with
> > numerous JSF members and Board members. Lots of ideas have been floated:
> > charging for membership, setting up levels of membership (e.g., voting
> > and non-voting), allowing only those on JSF work teams to be members,
> > etc. Many of these involve unnecessary complexity, I think, and really
> > won't solve the problem. And what is the problem? It's not that the JSF
> > is too open, but that members are, with very little effort, granted the
> > equivalent of tenure: once a member, always a member. So I'm thinking
> > that a simple reform would be to say that the term of membership is one
> > year. When you are accepted as a member, your membership term is dated
> > from the beginning of the application period in which you applied (e.g.,
> > 2003-04-01 for those who are accepted this month). In the application
> > period 12 months later, you must re-apply -- and you must list your
> > Jabber-related accomplishments for the last 12 months. I don't think it
> > matters all that much exactly what those accomplishments are, but
> > they should be things that contribute toward the threefold mission of
> > the JSF (develop the protocol, assist the community, and promote Jabber
> > technology). So one's accomplishments could include writing JEPs,
> > releasing software, posting consistently and productively to mailing
> > lists, creating documentation, giving talks to Linux User Groups and
> > industry forums, working actively on the Jabber Council or one of the
> > JSF work teams, and the like.
> >
> > This simple reform would ensure that only active contributors are JSF
> > members, and it might also encourage JSF members to be more active. :)
> > Obviously we'd need to work out some details (e.g., what happens if a
> > Council or work team member is not re-accepted -- how do we elect a
> > replacement for that person?). But I think that won't be too hard.
> >
> > I'm not formally proposing this yet (i.e., it's too late for us to vote
> > on this at the meeting on April 23), but I'd like to discuss it and see
> > what people think.
> >
> > Thanks again.
> >
> > Peter
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