[Foundation] statement from the Board

David Yitzchak Cohen dave at bigfatdave.com
Fri Aug 1 14:00:39 CDT 2003


Yup, I just got a flood of emails to that effect.  I must've missed the
announement ... sorry :-(

 - Dave


On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 02:52:33PM -0400, Russell Davis wrote:
> we already have xmpp.org in our sticky mitts thanks to jfrankel who
> handled free.tv for us to get it.
> see
> http://www.xmppworld.com/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=6
> 
> Russell
> 
> On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 14:40, David Yitzchak Cohen wrote:
> > ...sounds like a reasonable compromise to me as well, FWIW
> > 
> >  - Dave
> > 
> > BTW - EXMPP.ORG is available, if we don't want to buy XMPP.ORG off
> > whoever's holding it.
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Aug 01, 2003 at 08:25:22PM +0200, Francesco Delfino wrote:
> > > +1
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: members-admin at jabber.org [mailto:members-admin at jabber.org]On
> > > > Behalf Of Russell Davis
> > > > Sent: venerdì 1 agosto 2003 20.22
> > > > To: members at jabber.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [Foundation] statement from the Board
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I wholeheartedly agree with this and inparticular i've mentioned to
> > > > others OOB that xmpp.org should at least point to the ietf docs, this
> > > > would be much better. I do wonder on the accounting for the seperate
> > > > sponsorship possibilities but i am sure it can be worked out.
> > > >
> > > > this statement is well worth the delays and personally i +1  it
> > > > completly. I hope others agree.
> > > >
> > > > bst rgrds
> > > > Russell
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, 2003-08-01 at 13:55, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> > > > > The Board of Directors of the Jabber Software Foundation has agreed
> > > > > on the following statement:
> > > > >
> > > > > ******
> > > > >
> > > > > August 1, 2003
> > > > >
> > > > > The JSF Board of Directors recognizes the concerns among some members of
> > > > > the Jabber community that led to the recent proposal to remove the word
> > > > > "Jabber" from the name of the organization. These include:
> > > > >
> > > > >    1. The desire to have an IM protocol, logos, compliance testing
> > > > >    suites and marks, etc. that are not "encumbered" by the JABBER name,
> > > > >    since that name is also used in the company name of Jabber, Inc.
> > > > >    2. The desire to capitalize on standardization of the IM protocol
> > > > >    developed by the Jabber community within the IETF's Applications
> > > > >    Area under the name of XMPP.
> > > > >    3. The need for clearer communication of the fact that the JSF
> > > > >    is fully distinct from Jabber Inc.
> > > > >    4. The need to complete the transfer of the JABBER trademark
> > > > >    to the JSF.
> > > > >
> > > > > These concerns are legitimate. Indeed, even some members of the Board
> > > > > voted for the name change. However, the fact that the name change
> > > > > proposal was rejected does not mean that these concerns should not be
> > > > > addressed. Addressing them is not only the right thing to do, but we
> > > > > believe it will also help to lessen some of the existing tensions within
> > > > > the community and create a structure in which everyone can contribute
> > > > > and work together in building the protocol as well as associated
> > > > > technologies, networks, and the community itself.
> > > > >
> > > > > Obviously much could be done to address these concerns: acceleration of
> > > > > the trademark transfer work accomplished by the Board over the last 12
> > > > > months, renaming of JEP-0073, improved wording on the JSF website, and
> > > > > perhaps a different JSF logo. Those efforts are all valuable and should
> > > > > be pursued. Above and beyond those efforts, the Board has concluded that
> > > > > we need a framework for harnessing the contributions and energies of
> > > > > those who for whatever reason are not comfortable with the Jabber
> > > > > branding of the JSF. Ideally, such a framework should help to address
> > > > > the core concerns of some community members, as well as capitalize on
> > > > > the community's standardization efforts within the IETF.
> > > > >
> > > > > The proposed framework is as follows:
> > > > >
> > > > >    1. Inaugurate a website at xmpp.org devoted exclusively to
> > > > >    documentation of XMPP-based protocols for instant messaging and
> > > > >    presence.
> > > > >    2. These protocols would include both relevant output from the
> > > > >    IETF's XMPP WG and IM protocols developed through the JSF's
> > > > >    normal standards process (e.g., multi-user chat and file
> > > > >    transfer).
> > > > >    3. Define a compliance testing program and certification
> > > > >    mark for the XMPP protocols.
> > > > >    4. Provide a directory of XMPP applications, software
> > > > >    companies, and service providers.
> > > > >    5. Enable sponsors to support only the JSF's xmpp.org
> > > > >    activities if desired.
> > > > >
> > > > > The task of working out the details of such a framework will be pursued
> > > > > by a dedicated working group within the JSF that will be led by a member
> > > > > of the Board of Directors. Those details might include issues such as
> > > > > organizational structure, protocol naming, branding for XMPP vs. Jabber,
> > > > > and standards processes. The Board will resolve to create such a working
> > > > > group if consensus can be reached on the proposed framework.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Jabber Software Foundation Board of Directors:
> > > > >
> > > > > Michael Bauer (Chair)
> > > > > Tony Bamonti
> > > > > Ryan Eatmon
> > > > > Jeremie Miller
> > > > > Marco Palombi
> > > > >
> > > > > ******
> > > > >
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