[Foundation] Clarifications On Name Change Proposal

Matthew A. Miller linuxwolf at outer-planes.no-ip.com
Tue Jul 1 13:07:26 CDT 2003


So let me get this straight: those that proposed this name change want
to have their cake (by making the "JSF" not use the term "Jabber" in
some places) and eat it too (by having the "JSF" use the term "Jabber"
in some places)?

Am I the only one seeing mixed signals?


-  LW


On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 10:53, Iain Shigeoka wrote:
> Right. I want to re-emphasize that the name change proposers feel it is 
> essential Jabber Inc continue it's leadership role in our community.
> 
> I believe part of that will mean keeping JINC strong (as odd as that 
> sounds coming from someone arguing for a level playing field). I would 
> hope that this could include JINC retaining it's full Jabber trademark. 
> Even though the open protocol standards organization should not use 
> 'Jabber' it would be great if perhaps the mass market, user-friendly, 
> super portal (see jdev@ discussion) to gain market share for Jabber 
> usage should be named 'Jabber' or at least have 'jabber' in it's name 
> (and use the domain jabber.net - or jabber.org).
> 
> -iain
> 
> On Tuesday, Jul 1, 2003, at 08:05 US/Pacific, Tony Bamonti wrote:
> 
> > Matt,
> >
> > That work is on-going in good faith between both parties.   However, 
> > if the
> > membership determines that the "Jabber" trademark is no longer an 
> > important
> > part of the JSF's name or role then this arrangement will likely be
> > canceled.
> >
> > Tony
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Matthew A. Miller [mailto:linuxwolf at outer-planes.no-ip.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 7:29 PM
> >> To: Jabber Foundation Mailing List
> >> Subject: Re: [Foundation] Clarifications On Name Change Proposal
> >>
> >>
> >> And related to that:  what about the current work of transferring the
> >> "JABBER" trademark from Jabber, Inc. to the "JSF"?
> >>
> >>
> >> -  LW
> >>
> >> On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 18:25, Russell Davis wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 18:38, Dave Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we also require the team to provide an official
> >> findings document
> >>>> which lays out the costs in detail?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> related to that as it will definatly be several thousand
> >> dollars what
> >>> with domains to be paid for (maybe even off squatters),
> >> trademarks to be
> >>> researched and trademarked, new logo and related printing
> >> costs etc. how
> >>> healthy are the JSF finances?
> >>>
> >>> bst rgrds
> >>> Russell
> >>>
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> >> Matt "linuxwolf" Miller
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