_My_ Thoughts (was Re: [Foundation] my thoughts)

Evan Prodromou evan at prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us
Thu Jul 10 18:21:23 CDT 2003

>>>>> "BS" == Ben Schumacher <ben at blahr.com> writes:

    BS> As you stated in one of your previous emails, we haven't won,
    BS> but this continued bickering over small issues among those who
    BS> are supposed to be on our team will certainly serve to defeat
    BS> us, even if Micrsoft or AOL never bat an eye in our direction.

Disagree, and not even in an ironic way although it's justified.

I think the Jabber community, and specifically the JSF, is incredibly
strong and mature organizationally now. Rigorous discussion of
technical issues makes sure that designs don't have glaring holes that
come out only at implementation time. Conflict makes better designs.

And I think dealing with organizational issues -- even ones seemingly
as trivial as the name of the organization itself -- strengthen the

We have good procedures for dealing with dissent. Sometimes dissenting
opinions are integrated into the mainstream and compromises are
reached. Other times, no compromise is reached, and we have to go to a
vote to make a decision. Then we're done, and we move on.

I think it'd be a lot worse if we _didn't_ have dissent, and if we
didn't work through that dissent with good discussions. 

As to the current naming question: I think that there are very few
people on this list who don't see the trade-offs we have to make
here. On the one hand, we have the momentum and emotional attachment
to the name that has gotten us this far; on the other hand, we have
the goodwill of a good number of the commercial Jabber developers.

We'll discuss it, we'll vote, and then we'll be done.


Evan Prodromou
evan at prodromou.san-francisco.ca.us

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